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> In the definition as is very well agreed upon, No, the definition that is "very well agreed upon" is purely the lack of animal products in the food. The log

> In the definition as is very well agreed upon, No, the definition that is "very well agreed upon" is purely the lack of animal products in the food. The logo on supermarket products that denotes the product as "good for vegans" is based purely on that lack of animal products, not on any ethical beliefs beyond that. Also, even among those who would call themselves vegan for ethical reasons and so do not eat animals or dairy products, there are a considerable amount of people without qualms about using animal products in other spheres of life than food. You seem to be trying to do gatekeeping about what a "real vegan" is and cut out those who don’t share your purist animal-rights obsession. That is obnoxious. > (hence veganism setting itself apart from vegetarianism which is only a diet). Veganism has set itself apart from vegetarianism because in common parlance the latter term covers diets that allow milk products.

cies 6y ago
> No, the definition that is "very well agreed upon" That's what you say. I'm a vegan for 7+ years and know many. One thing so great about veganism is that the mission/definition is very clear. Pls see Wikipedia, or one of the many introductions on YT. > The logo on supermarket products that denotes the product as "good for vegans" is based purely on that lack of animal products, not on any ethical beliefs beyond that. Supermarkt product dont hold ethical beliefs. They may fit with certain beliefs though. That's what's indicated with "suitable for vegetarians/vegans". They could be more "correct" or cater for a wider public by saying: "fits with a plant based diet". Plant based is the word for the diet component of veganism. > there are a considerable amount of people without qualms about using animal products in other spheres of life than food. They are not vegan according to the definition. > Veganism has set itself apart from vegetarianism because in common parlance the latter term covers diets that allow milk products. And eggs. And honey. And the fact that veganism is more than a diet, hence vegans not going to zoos and not buying wool/fur/slik/leather.

cies 6y ago

> No, the definition that is "very well agreed upon" That's what you say. I'm a vegan for 7+ years and know many. One thing so great about veganism is that the mission/definition is very clear. Pls see Wikipedia, or one of the many introductions on YT. > The logo on supermarket products that denotes the product as "good for vegans" is based purely on that lack of animal products, not on any ethical beliefs beyond that. Supermarkt product dont hold ethical beliefs. They may fit with certain beliefs though. That's what's indicated with "suitable for vegetarians/vegans". They could be more "correct" or cater for a wider public by saying: "fits with a plant based diet". Plant based is the word for the diet component of veganism. > there are a considerable amount of people without qualms about using animal products in other spheres of life than food. They are not vegan according to the definition. > Veganism has set itself apart from vegetarianism because in common parlance the latter term covers diets that allow milk products. And eggs. And honey. And the fact that veganism is more than a diet, hence vegans not going to zoos and not buying wool/fur/slik/leather.