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Is there evidence he actually cared about the neo-nazi bit, and it wasn't just another sham identity? The guy sounds absolutely amoral, and neo-nazis seem like

Is there evidence he actually cared about the neo-nazi bit, and it wasn't just another sham identity? The guy sounds absolutely amoral, and neo-nazis seem like they'd be easy marks.

sp332 6y ago
I don't see how you can be a "sham" neo-nazi. If you're recruiting, encouraging, and otherwise aiding neo-nazis, you're a neo-nazi.
- willis936 6y ago
  It’s an earworm started by alt-right trying to hide behind ambiguous intent because saying some things out loud will push them further to the fringe.
- mckirk 6y ago
  At the danger of going even more off-topic, 'nazism' is a fairly clearly defined far-right ideology. If you are a scam artist preferring to hang out with nazis because they are easy to manipulate, you are pretty scummy, but not automatically a neo-nazi.
  - watwut 6y ago
    When you are leading anti-government march, like actually leading, can we finally admit that you might have something to do with group? But, if you sport nazi t-shirt while you are hanging out with nazis, if you are confirming their convictions to them and if you talk to undecided/doubting people, you are nazi regardless of what you believe deep down.
    - capableweb 6y ago
      > When you are leading anti-government march, like actually leading Sure, if he did actually lead anti-government marches, we could admit that he did lead anti-government marches. But since he didn't, we shouldn't admit to something that never happened.
  - spacemanmatt 6y ago
    Can't shake the devil's hand then say you're only kidding
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- jvanderbot 6y ago
  I disagree with my hiring organization's policies all the time. A job is a job, and for him, scams were a job. So, it's possible.
plorg 6y ago
I'm not surprised that any of these fringe identities would be lucrative for a scam artist, but where is the line on identity if you can take it off and put on something else with such apartment ease? If nothing else I really feel for his father (mentioned in the article), who despite everything seems to have deeply cared for his son.

Is there evidence he actually cared about the neo-nazi bit, and it wasn't just another sham identity? The guy sounds absolutely amoral, and neo-nazis seem like they'd be easy marks.

sp332 6y ago

I don't see how you can be a "sham" neo-nazi. If you're recruiting, encouraging, and otherwise aiding neo-nazis, you're a neo-nazi.

willis936 6y ago
It’s an earworm started by alt-right trying to hide behind ambiguous intent because saying some things out loud will push them further to the fringe.
mckirk 6y ago
At the danger of going even more off-topic, 'nazism' is a fairly clearly defined far-right ideology. If you are a scam artist preferring to hang out with nazis because they are easy to manipulate, you are pretty scummy, but not automatically a neo-nazi.
- watwut 6y ago
  When you are leading anti-government march, like actually leading, can we finally admit that you might have something to do with group? But, if you sport nazi t-shirt while you are hanging out with nazis, if you are confirming their convictions to them and if you talk to undecided/doubting people, you are nazi regardless of what you believe deep down.
  - capableweb 6y ago
    > When you are leading anti-government march, like actually leading Sure, if he did actually lead anti-government marches, we could admit that he did lead anti-government marches. But since he didn't, we shouldn't admit to something that never happened.
- spacemanmatt 6y ago
  Can't shake the devil's hand then say you're only kidding
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jvanderbot 6y ago
I disagree with my hiring organization's policies all the time. A job is a job, and for him, scams were a job. So, it's possible.

plorg 6y ago

I'm not surprised that any of these fringe identities would be lucrative for a scam artist, but where is the line on identity if you can take it off and put on something else with such apartment ease? If nothing else I really feel for his father (mentioned in the article), who despite everything seems to have deeply cared for his son.