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>The real concern is that people are wasting money on multivitamins that would better benefit their health if spent elsewhere, Paranjpe said. Curious if there

>The real concern is that people are wasting money on multivitamins that would better benefit their health if spent elsewhere, Paranjpe said. Curious if there would be a concrete suggestion to replace the $5/month on vitamins. Full disclosure: I started taking a multivitamin recently, on the basis of it seems like it can't hurt, and who knows, maybe it could help for corona.

boyter 6y ago
There has been a lot of posts on the front page recently about vitamin D deficiency and covid. Surely most multi-vitamins have D in them?
- treeman79 6y ago
  Typical is 400 units. My prescription is for 50,000 (weekly) These days I take about 3,000 in morning, as evening will keep me awake.
FriedPickles 6y ago
> Curious if there would be a concrete suggestion to replace the $5/month on vitamins. Maybe fish oil and/or another Omega-3 source like flax seed.
- SoSoRoCoCo 6y ago
  I had a doctor who was obsessed with balancing Omega-3 and Omega-6. He kept claiming that excess Omega-3 did nothing without 6's. I kinda scratched my head at that, because it was so new, but I never followed up after I moved to a different state and found a new doctor who was equally unfamiliar with that claim.
  - treeman79 6y ago
    I have seen that before. Rabbit hole is deep on that stuff. Improving Vitamin Absorption is another step. Some with oil, some water, etc.
- fiblye 6y ago
  Is fish oil anything more than snake oil? I've never seen concrete evidence that it does anything. Wikipedia also seems to say it's all ambiguous, with studies flip flopping as much as coffee and wine health studies.
  - treeman79 6y ago
    Have chronic illness. Fish oil and the other ones parent mentioned are all part of my daily routine. I went from 7/10 pain level to 2/10. Those all get mentioned a lot in various help support groups.
  - arcticbull 6y ago
    Snake Oil Supplements [1] has studies to show that fish oil and omega 3 is: - effective for preterm birth - promising for colorectal cancer - inconclusive for cardiovascular disease, low sperm count, depression, psychosis, cystic fibrosis - slightly beneficial for cancer symptoms - has no effect on diabetes, Crohn's disease, asthma, alzheimers - harmful: increases the risk of prostate cancer Regarding coffee, there is strong evidence that consumption of black coffee reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease -- a massive meta-analysis of 36 studies covering 1.28 million people and 36500 cases of cardiovascular disease showed a nonlinear association with minimal CVD risk at 3-5 cups per day [2]. [1] https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/snake-oil-scientific-evidence-for-nutritional-supplements-vizsweet/ https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/snake-oil-... [2] https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circulationaha.113.005925 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circulationaha....
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bsder 6y ago
> on the basis of it seems like it can't hurt And that's the misconception. Things like Vitamin C are no problem. Your body takes what it needs, stores a bunch, and easily excretes the excess. Things like Vitamin D, however, aren't so benign. Excessive Vitamin D has knock on effects with Calcium. Also, Vitamin D tends to accumulate in fat, so if you store up too much, it can take weeks to bring down. Just because something is a "Vitamin" doesn't make it harmless. And, this is before we even start considering things like supplements which have who knows what in them.
- treeman79 6y ago
  Potassium is my trouble maker. Fixes burning hands and feet caused by another med. but is not one to mess around with. Would be nice To be able to quickly check blood levels
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Darmody 6y ago
Maybe or maybe not. Taking multivitamins with iron as a man can be harmful so be careful. I think a better idea than taking an all-in-one is taking only what your body needs. If have a stable diet and you know what you're really putting in your mouth, it shouldn't be difficult to know what supplements are good for you. I take vitamins B, C, D and K and magnesium and zinc. I have never left better than now. I don't need coffee anymore to have energy throughout the day, I just feel good.

boyter 6y ago

There has been a lot of posts on the front page recently about vitamin D deficiency and covid. Surely most multi-vitamins have D in them?

treeman79 6y ago
Typical is 400 units. My prescription is for 50,000 (weekly) These days I take about 3,000 in morning, as evening will keep me awake.

FriedPickles 6y ago

> Curious if there would be a concrete suggestion to replace the $5/month on vitamins. Maybe fish oil and/or another Omega-3 source like flax seed.

SoSoRoCoCo 6y ago
I had a doctor who was obsessed with balancing Omega-3 and Omega-6. He kept claiming that excess Omega-3 did nothing without 6's. I kinda scratched my head at that, because it was so new, but I never followed up after I moved to a different state and found a new doctor who was equally unfamiliar with that claim.
- treeman79 6y ago
  I have seen that before. Rabbit hole is deep on that stuff. Improving Vitamin Absorption is another step. Some with oil, some water, etc.
fiblye 6y ago
Is fish oil anything more than snake oil? I've never seen concrete evidence that it does anything. Wikipedia also seems to say it's all ambiguous, with studies flip flopping as much as coffee and wine health studies.
- treeman79 6y ago
  Have chronic illness. Fish oil and the other ones parent mentioned are all part of my daily routine. I went from 7/10 pain level to 2/10. Those all get mentioned a lot in various help support groups.
- arcticbull 6y ago
  Snake Oil Supplements [1] has studies to show that fish oil and omega 3 is: - effective for preterm birth - promising for colorectal cancer - inconclusive for cardiovascular disease, low sperm count, depression, psychosis, cystic fibrosis - slightly beneficial for cancer symptoms - has no effect on diabetes, Crohn's disease, asthma, alzheimers - harmful: increases the risk of prostate cancer Regarding coffee, there is strong evidence that consumption of black coffee reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease -- a massive meta-analysis of 36 studies covering 1.28 million people and 36500 cases of cardiovascular disease showed a nonlinear association with minimal CVD risk at 3-5 cups per day [2]. [1] https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/snake-oil-scientific-evidence-for-nutritional-supplements-vizsweet/ https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/snake-oil-... [2] https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circulationaha.113.005925 https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circulationaha....

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bsder 6y ago

> on the basis of it seems like it can't hurt And that's the misconception. Things like Vitamin C are no problem. Your body takes what it needs, stores a bunch, and easily excretes the excess. Things like Vitamin D, however, aren't so benign. Excessive Vitamin D has knock on effects with Calcium. Also, Vitamin D tends to accumulate in fat, so if you store up too much, it can take weeks to bring down. Just because something is a "Vitamin" doesn't make it harmless. And, this is before we even start considering things like supplements which have who knows what in them.

treeman79 6y ago
Potassium is my trouble maker. Fixes burning hands and feet caused by another med. but is not one to mess around with. Would be nice To be able to quickly check blood levels
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Darmody 6y ago

Maybe or maybe not. Taking multivitamins with iron as a man can be harmful so be careful. I think a better idea than taking an all-in-one is taking only what your body needs. If have a stable diet and you know what you're really putting in your mouth, it shouldn't be difficult to know what supplements are good for you. I take vitamins B, C, D and K and magnesium and zinc. I have never left better than now. I don't need coffee anymore to have energy throughout the day, I just feel good.