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Not sure the downvoting ... Even with 16, 32gb of ram, Android phones still don’t have buttery smooth 60 FPS while iOS has never been smoother

AncientPC 6y ago
You're confusing CPU and memory pressure, and attributing blame to the wrong component. Android's lack of smoothness is due to thread contention, whereas the iOS kernel uses a dedicated UI thread running at high priority. RAM size has no impact on UI performance, beyond a sufficient amount for the kernel.
- Fogest 6y ago
  To add on to this, the person you are replying to is also quite wrong. Android devices definitely can be smooth and many go past 60hz now and have higher refresh rates than Apple products.
  - AncientPC 6y ago
    I don't care that the p90 UI latency performance is better, the p99 performance on Android devices is terrible (UI stuttering). I use a Pixel 3 and iPhone 8 on a daily basis.
    - isatty 6y ago
      Agreed. I have a pixel work phone and iPhone (XS/12 pro) for personal usage. Even though the Android is also current gen it can be unresponsive at times and also the face unlock is terrible on the android. I can’t remember the last time faceid failed but on Android it’s atleast 2-3 times a day.
slumdev 6y ago
You're getting downvoted because "hyper-optimizing" isn't going to let me run another VM or launch another instance of Xcode.
- ajharrison 6y ago
  Yet. You’ll be using Xcode on your iPad soon enough.
- coldtea 6y ago
  95% percent of laptop users wont run VMs or Xcode, so there's that...
  - pampa 6y ago
    MacBooks and PowerBooks before them where about that 5% of power users who fell in love with their tools and preached to all their friends and family to get one too. Now that apple has the remaining 95%, it is letting their power users down. But that is only natural, establishing a beachhead with the powerusers was "just" a genious marketing move that worked pretty well.
    - coldtea 6y ago
      >MacBooks and PowerBooks before them where about that 5% of power users who fell in love with their tools and preached to all their friends and family to get one too. And they still are. Just not in their base configuration, like they have never been. I've been using their stuff since the Motorola era. Was there any time Apple gave "ample" RAM/DISK in their base configuration? No. If anything, now it's better than ever...

AncientPC 6y ago

You're confusing CPU and memory pressure, and attributing blame to the wrong component. Android's lack of smoothness is due to thread contention, whereas the iOS kernel uses a dedicated UI thread running at high priority. RAM size has no impact on UI performance, beyond a sufficient amount for the kernel.

Fogest 6y ago
To add on to this, the person you are replying to is also quite wrong. Android devices definitely can be smooth and many go past 60hz now and have higher refresh rates than Apple products.
- AncientPC 6y ago
  I don't care that the p90 UI latency performance is better, the p99 performance on Android devices is terrible (UI stuttering). I use a Pixel 3 and iPhone 8 on a daily basis.
  - isatty 6y ago
    Agreed. I have a pixel work phone and iPhone (XS/12 pro) for personal usage. Even though the Android is also current gen it can be unresponsive at times and also the face unlock is terrible on the android. I can’t remember the last time faceid failed but on Android it’s atleast 2-3 times a day.

slumdev 6y ago

You're getting downvoted because "hyper-optimizing" isn't going to let me run another VM or launch another instance of Xcode.

ajharrison 6y ago
Yet. You’ll be using Xcode on your iPad soon enough.
coldtea 6y ago
95% percent of laptop users wont run VMs or Xcode, so there's that...
- pampa 6y ago
  MacBooks and PowerBooks before them where about that 5% of power users who fell in love with their tools and preached to all their friends and family to get one too. Now that apple has the remaining 95%, it is letting their power users down. But that is only natural, establishing a beachhead with the powerusers was "just" a genious marketing move that worked pretty well.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >MacBooks and PowerBooks before them where about that 5% of power users who fell in love with their tools and preached to all their friends and family to get one too. And they still are. Just not in their base configuration, like they have never been. I've been using their stuff since the Motorola era. Was there any time Apple gave "ample" RAM/DISK in their base configuration? No. If anything, now it's better than ever...