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>The three-strikes law is pure abomination Why? I don't have a well-formed opinion on this type of policy but there is a balance between prioritizing justice f

>The three-strikes law is pure abomination Why? I don't have a well-formed opinion on this type of policy but there is a balance between prioritizing justice for victims and rights of victimizers. Behind every single strike are innocent people who have been hurt by the individual and at some point, you have to take steps to protect them from someone who just doesn't want to stop. You also can't take away all agency from that individual. Those strikes are collected through many years and multiple prison sentences - at that point, it's a decision to continue.

paganel 6y ago
Putting a person in prison for life for three separate shop-lifting sentences is inhuman (just an example I thought of myself right now but I'm pretty sure it's real).
- macspoofing 6y ago
  To be clear, the individual in question was neither incarcerated life, nor was incarcerated for shoplifting. >just an example I thought of myself right now but I'm pretty sure it's real You're pretty sure it's real eh?
  - sgt101 6y ago
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cruel-and-unusual-punishment-the-shame-of-three-strikes-laws-92042/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cruel-an...
    - macspoofing 6y ago
      I know you're proving something here, but I'm not sure what. The first example they cite is a man who was convicted for multiple robberies (robbery is a violent crime, by the way), and even after a string of prison stints, he goes and shoplifts. What is he thinking? What in the world is he doing to his life!?!?!? As is typical of this kind of slant, all agency is removed from him. He is not responsible for going to prison, society is. I understand what the arguments are, and I agree with the length of sentences ... to a point, but I'm always frustrated that victims are ignored in these arguments and the focus is always on the rights of the abuser. The context for 'three-strike' type of policy is the high level of crime in America and an attempt to protect and provide justice to law-abiding citizens who are victimized by these individuals.

paganel 6y ago

Putting a person in prison for life for three separate shop-lifting sentences is inhuman (just an example I thought of myself right now but I'm pretty sure it's real).

macspoofing 6y ago
To be clear, the individual in question was neither incarcerated life, nor was incarcerated for shoplifting. >just an example I thought of myself right now but I'm pretty sure it's real You're pretty sure it's real eh?
- sgt101 6y ago
  https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cruel-and-unusual-punishment-the-shame-of-three-strikes-laws-92042/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cruel-an...
  - macspoofing 6y ago
    I know you're proving something here, but I'm not sure what. The first example they cite is a man who was convicted for multiple robberies (robbery is a violent crime, by the way), and even after a string of prison stints, he goes and shoplifts. What is he thinking? What in the world is he doing to his life!?!?!? As is typical of this kind of slant, all agency is removed from him. He is not responsible for going to prison, society is. I understand what the arguments are, and I agree with the length of sentences ... to a point, but I'm always frustrated that victims are ignored in these arguments and the focus is always on the rights of the abuser. The context for 'three-strike' type of policy is the high level of crime in America and an attempt to protect and provide justice to law-abiding citizens who are victimized by these individuals.