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This is frankly not the time to push ridiculous conspiracy theories about the CIA being in bed with Osama.

abbasmehdi 15y ago
Sorry don't mean to hurt your sensitivity, but try to think objectively, what's accepted here isn't the same that's been accepted over there by society in large. Also if you really think it took the US over a decade and over 1,000,000,000,000 dollars to find that guy then whose military sucks? OBL is a joke, the world knows, the difference is that some kids at the magic show actually believe that it's real magic.
danilocampos 15y ago
It's hardly far-fetched to say the two parties were acquainted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA-Osama_bin_Laden_controversy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA-Osama_bin_Laden_controversy Dunno if I'd go as far as saying they were still pals in the last decade but I would warn you that jingoistic fervor is a terrible reason to suspend critical thought or curiosity. Boogeymen are enormously useful tools to those who have power. Skepticism is as valuable to apply to one's government as to conspiracy theorists. It's never "the time" to turn off your brain. This is the same organism, mind you, that once called Iraq an imminent threat. Keep your salt handy. Here's a great book by a former CIA field agent that explains just how complicated the reality of our middle east relations can get: http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Devil-Washington-Saudi-Crude/dp/1400050219 http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Devil-Washington-Saudi-Crude/... Get through that book and even the most outlandish claims about our foreign policy or intelligence services will seem worth considering.
- shareme 15y ago
  That book does not imply direct knowing or help..hold on let me explain..The Afghan fighters would not knowingly accept US help to overthrow Soviets.. SO Pakistan ISA brokered US help by accepting US weapons and training and passing those weapons and training onto Afghan freedom fighters.. The source of the US help was the CIA.. So there was no direct knowledge in the sense that Osama did not know any CIA officers to contact, etc..but yes an indirect linkage of stuff yes.. BTW, why Pakistan? When Pakistan got the nuke bomb US policy makers reasoned that it might be helpful to support and help Pakistan to prevent use of the nuke bombs they had and those weapons falling into hands of someone else other than Pakistan..Pakistan's nuke bombs indirect result of China's political help to offset India ambitions.
nikcub 15y ago
yes because we all know that relationship was over after '91
- abbasmehdi 15y ago
  But I don't think OBL ever got over the US, I mean the US had moved on and was seeing other people, and he tried too but it just wasn't ever the same. ;)

Sorry don't mean to hurt your sensitivity, but try to think objectively, what's accepted here isn't the same that's been accepted over there by society in large. Also if you really think it took the US over a decade and over 1,000,000,000,000 dollars to find that guy then whose military sucks? OBL is a joke, the world knows, the difference is that some kids at the magic show actually believe that it's real magic.

danilocampos 15y ago

It's hardly far-fetched to say the two parties were acquainted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA-Osama_bin_Laden_controversy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA-Osama_bin_Laden_controversy Dunno if I'd go as far as saying they were still pals in the last decade but I would warn you that jingoistic fervor is a terrible reason to suspend critical thought or curiosity. Boogeymen are enormously useful tools to those who have power. Skepticism is as valuable to apply to one's government as to conspiracy theorists. It's never "the time" to turn off your brain. This is the same organism, mind you, that once called Iraq an imminent threat. Keep your salt handy. Here's a great book by a former CIA field agent that explains just how complicated the reality of our middle east relations can get: http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Devil-Washington-Saudi-Crude/dp/1400050219 http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Devil-Washington-Saudi-Crude/... Get through that book and even the most outlandish claims about our foreign policy or intelligence services will seem worth considering.

shareme 15y ago
That book does not imply direct knowing or help..hold on let me explain..The Afghan fighters would not knowingly accept US help to overthrow Soviets.. SO Pakistan ISA brokered US help by accepting US weapons and training and passing those weapons and training onto Afghan freedom fighters.. The source of the US help was the CIA.. So there was no direct knowledge in the sense that Osama did not know any CIA officers to contact, etc..but yes an indirect linkage of stuff yes.. BTW, why Pakistan? When Pakistan got the nuke bomb US policy makers reasoned that it might be helpful to support and help Pakistan to prevent use of the nuke bombs they had and those weapons falling into hands of someone else other than Pakistan..Pakistan's nuke bombs indirect result of China's political help to offset India ambitions.

nikcub 15y ago

yes because we all know that relationship was over after '91

abbasmehdi 15y ago
But I don't think OBL ever got over the US, I mean the US had moved on and was seeing other people, and he tried too but it just wasn't ever the same. ;)