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Flash is still the gold standard. I'm still surprised that there isn't a more concerted effort to get Flash on more devices. HTML 5 is literally almost a deca

Flash is still the gold standard. I'm still surprised that there isn't a more concerted effort to get Flash on more devices. HTML 5 is literally almost a decade behind Flash (Flash 7 feels like the closest, which was 2003). The HTML standards body just moves too slow (basically all standards bodies do, its the nature of the beast). Look at how Silverlight has changed since its been released, compared to HTML. I'm personally a fan of the plugin model in general. I feel like the only thing browsers should have is HTML/CSS and a way to talk to the DOM (maybe treat the DOM as a RESTful service). And then plugins that can be hosted for things like Javascript, C#, Flash, etc...

statictype 16y ago
I'm still surprised that there isn't a more concerted effort to get Flash on more devices. All the attempts so far have been, um, less than stellar. Considering that Adobe and mobile OS providers have a strong incentive to make it work (basically to stick it to the iPad) and it hasn't happened yet would seem to strongly indicate that the Flash codebase, as it stands, is simply too complex or possibly too messy to make it work reasonably well on mobile platforms. They may have to just throw it away and start from scratch. Personally, I would rather see a concerted effort to make HTML5 and related technology/tools catch up to where Flash currently stands. (They have a ways to go as the OP has mentioned)
rimantas 16y ago
> HTML 5 is literally almost a decade behind Flash It's not about Flash vs. HTML5 as many think. It's about flash vs. native apps.
- statictype 16y ago
  I disagree. Once devices that don't support Flash become pervasive enough, everyone will have to write their flash-based web sites to support them. For most sites, this would mean using HTML5 (or related technologies), not writing a separate app that would require a developer license, approval, forking the codebase, etc...

statictype 16y ago

I'm still surprised that there isn't a more concerted effort to get Flash on more devices. All the attempts so far have been, um, less than stellar. Considering that Adobe and mobile OS providers have a strong incentive to make it work (basically to stick it to the iPad) and it hasn't happened yet would seem to strongly indicate that the Flash codebase, as it stands, is simply too complex or possibly too messy to make it work reasonably well on mobile platforms. They may have to just throw it away and start from scratch. Personally, I would rather see a concerted effort to make HTML5 and related technology/tools catch up to where Flash currently stands. (They have a ways to go as the OP has mentioned)

rimantas 16y ago

> HTML 5 is literally almost a decade behind Flash It's not about Flash vs. HTML5 as many think. It's about flash vs. native apps.

statictype 16y ago
I disagree. Once devices that don't support Flash become pervasive enough, everyone will have to write their flash-based web sites to support them. For most sites, this would mean using HTML5 (or related technologies), not writing a separate app that would require a developer license, approval, forking the codebase, etc...