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Air only has passive cooling; Pro has a fan.

by css 6y ago

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adwi 6y ago
Depending on benchmarks sounds like another win for the MBA...
Osiris 6y ago
So the Pro should be able to maintain higher clock speeds for longer, is the assumption?
- kjsthree 6y ago
  Yes, that is almost certainly the case. They didn’t mention clock speed at all though so we’ll have to wait for real-world tests.
- ralph87 6y ago
  The emphasis here being on the word "should". I wouldn't buy just yet until some third party has published a sustained load/heat test. Apple have sucked at this for quite some years now, it's folly to touch a MacBook for anything remotely compute-intensive
  - andromeduck 6y ago
    Only when you compare apples to oranges, but this is an apples to apples comparison. Same underlying silicon, almost identical configuration, different chassis. It's impossible for the Pro not to outperform the Air when the only substantial difference for performance is TDP and we have zero reason to believe that heat-pipe + fan would be outperform by passive cooling of all things.
    - marcolussetti 6y ago
      Agreed, the Pro's cooling should be better. However, I think it's worth waiting and seeing. There might not be that big of a difference in the end (e.g. both are uncharacteristically well designed and run fine; or conversely both are so badly thermally throttled that no serious intensive tasks can be performed) in which case other factors could end up being more significant.
  - colejohnson66 6y ago
    Apple has always sucked when it came to cooling. The Apple /// and Lisa were plagued by “IC creep” where, due to heat expansion from inadequate cooling, the ICs would wiggle out of their sockets ever so slowly.
- minxomat 6y ago
  They have said exactly that multiple times in the presentation. Mini & MBP will maintain higher clock speeds indefinitely.
marta_morena_28 6y ago
Oh I am sure judging by how excellent MacBook Pros cool things, having passive cooling will make no difference at all. I mean, during summer I put my MacBook on a large ice block that I freeze over night, this way I can maintain acceptable build & development speeds during the day. Should work the same for the MacBook Air. No?
- laksdjfkasljdf 6y ago
  It will be equally as hot, but quieter.
beamatronic 6y ago
That's some serious doublespeak right there

Air only has passive cooling; Pro has a fan.

by css 6y ago

Air only has passive cooling; Pro has a fan.

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adwi 6y ago

Depending on benchmarks sounds like another win for the MBA...

Osiris 6y ago

So the Pro should be able to maintain higher clock speeds for longer, is the assumption?

kjsthree 6y ago
Yes, that is almost certainly the case. They didn’t mention clock speed at all though so we’ll have to wait for real-world tests.
ralph87 6y ago
The emphasis here being on the word "should". I wouldn't buy just yet until some third party has published a sustained load/heat test. Apple have sucked at this for quite some years now, it's folly to touch a MacBook for anything remotely compute-intensive
- andromeduck 6y ago
  Only when you compare apples to oranges, but this is an apples to apples comparison. Same underlying silicon, almost identical configuration, different chassis. It's impossible for the Pro not to outperform the Air when the only substantial difference for performance is TDP and we have zero reason to believe that heat-pipe + fan would be outperform by passive cooling of all things.
  - marcolussetti 6y ago
    Agreed, the Pro's cooling should be better. However, I think it's worth waiting and seeing. There might not be that big of a difference in the end (e.g. both are uncharacteristically well designed and run fine; or conversely both are so badly thermally throttled that no serious intensive tasks can be performed) in which case other factors could end up being more significant.
- colejohnson66 6y ago
  Apple has always sucked when it came to cooling. The Apple /// and Lisa were plagued by “IC creep” where, due to heat expansion from inadequate cooling, the ICs would wiggle out of their sockets ever so slowly.
minxomat 6y ago
They have said exactly that multiple times in the presentation. Mini & MBP will maintain higher clock speeds indefinitely.

marta_morena_28 6y ago

Oh I am sure judging by how excellent MacBook Pros cool things, having passive cooling will make no difference at all. I mean, during summer I put my MacBook on a large ice block that I freeze over night, this way I can maintain acceptable build & development speeds during the day. Should work the same for the MacBook Air. No?

laksdjfkasljdf 6y ago
It will be equally as hot, but quieter.

beamatronic 6y ago

That's some serious doublespeak right there