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Agreed. I would also suspect that there are some other factors: - people hoping for change are more willing to answer polls - people who are ashamed of their

Agreed. I would also suspect that there are some other factors: - people hoping for change are more willing to answer polls - people who are ashamed of their opinions are more unwilling to answer polls The second one, perhaps, gives too much credit for self-awareness, though.

bra-ket 6y ago
I would also suspect that there are some other factors: - people who have too much free time on their hands will answer polls more - gullible people, who tend to click on spam emails and ads and trust their news, will answer polls more - people who've been vilified by the media for their views are unlikely to answer polls - people who are afraid to be 'cancelled' or harassed for their views are unlikely to answer polls - people who don't trust particular news organizations spreading political propaganda are unlikely to answer polls from those organizations
goostavos 6y ago
Aaaaand you've actually answered your own question. Why would people not give an actual opinion to a stranger when there's this default opinion of them as (a) having wrongthink they should be ashamed of, or (b) too stupid to realize their wrongthing is in fact wrong? Guess we'll never know why those dummies would possibly hide their true preferences.
dillondoyle 6y ago
It's less about 'ashamed of their opinions' or the 'shy trump voter.' The article talks about this. The crux of the problem - at least argued by this authored and from what I see working politics backed up generally - is that those Republican / Trump voters do not trust others and are less likely to take the poll in the first place. Those that do take survey generally do not lie about their support. The article gives evidence. Here is the section: "I use the General Social Survey’s question, which is, “Generally speaking, would you say that most people can be trusted or that you can’t be too careful in dealing with people?” .... It turns out, in the GSS, that 70 percent of people say that people can’t be trusted. And if you do phone surveys, and you weight, you will get that 50 percent of people say that people can be trusted. It’s a pretty massive gap. [Sociologist] Robert Putnam actually did some research on this, but people who don’t trust people and don’t trust institutions are way less likely to answer phone surveys. Unsurprising! This has always been true. It just used to not matter."
- bra-ket 6y ago
  >do not trust others it's hard to trust someone who calls you 'racist' without evidence. It's also hard to trust people who are willing to destroy your life if you're not on their side.
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bra-ket 6y ago

I would also suspect that there are some other factors: - people who have too much free time on their hands will answer polls more - gullible people, who tend to click on spam emails and ads and trust their news, will answer polls more - people who've been vilified by the media for their views are unlikely to answer polls - people who are afraid to be 'cancelled' or harassed for their views are unlikely to answer polls - people who don't trust particular news organizations spreading political propaganda are unlikely to answer polls from those organizations

goostavos 6y ago

Aaaaand you've actually answered your own question. Why would people not give an actual opinion to a stranger when there's this default opinion of them as (a) having wrongthink they should be ashamed of, or (b) too stupid to realize their wrongthing is in fact wrong? Guess we'll never know why those dummies would possibly hide their true preferences.

dillondoyle 6y ago

It's less about 'ashamed of their opinions' or the 'shy trump voter.' The article talks about this. The crux of the problem - at least argued by this authored and from what I see working politics backed up generally - is that those Republican / Trump voters do not trust others and are less likely to take the poll in the first place. Those that do take survey generally do not lie about their support. The article gives evidence. Here is the section: "I use the General Social Survey’s question, which is, “Generally speaking, would you say that most people can be trusted or that you can’t be too careful in dealing with people?” .... It turns out, in the GSS, that 70 percent of people say that people can’t be trusted. And if you do phone surveys, and you weight, you will get that 50 percent of people say that people can be trusted. It’s a pretty massive gap. [Sociologist] Robert Putnam actually did some research on this, but people who don’t trust people and don’t trust institutions are way less likely to answer phone surveys. Unsurprising! This has always been true. It just used to not matter."

bra-ket 6y ago
>do not trust others it's hard to trust someone who calls you 'racist' without evidence. It's also hard to trust people who are willing to destroy your life if you're not on their side.
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