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And it costs an extra €224 to go from 8 to 16gb. This is ridiculously expensive.
by bnt 6y ago
And it costs an extra €224 to go from 8 to 16gb. This is ridiculously expensive.
- jeffbee 6y agoIt's not quite as insulting as their $800 2TB SSD.
- mlindner 6y agoI mean if it's SLC chip, that can explain the price.
- jeffbee 6y agoAlso if it comes with $600 in cash stuffed inside, that would explain the price. But it's neither of those things.
- wmf 6y agoIt's not, although it is ridiculously fast. But most people don't need ridiculous storage performance; they just need the space.
- smileybarry 6y agoIt's not, Apple most likely use TLC 3D NAND. There's no definitive source but the only remaining SLC drives being made are enterprise (and a few at that), and I think MLC is the same by now. (Even Samsung's Pro series moved to TLC)
- driverdan 6y agoThe fastest drive available today is the WD SN850: https://shop.westerndigital.com/en-us/products/internal-drives/wd-black-sn850-nvme-ssd#WDS200T1X0E-00AFY0 https://shop.westerndigital.com/en-us/products/internal-driv... The consumer price for 2TB is $450. $800 is absurd.
- olyjohn 6y agoThis has always been par for the course for computer manufacturers. I used to spec out Dell PCs for the school I worked at. At the time, retail cost for a 1TB HDD was the same price as a 512GB SSD. But Dell was charging double for the SSD. For me personally, I used to buy the lower-end models with small HDD and RAM, then upgrade them. But that's no longer an option with these machines.
- alisonkisk 6y agoApple price is always 2x consumer price.
- Tepix 6y agoYou could get the smallest SSD (a laughable 256GB) and then add one or two external 10Gbps NVMe M.2 SSDs at very low cost and with adequate performance.
- dschuler 6y agoAny option in Euros is about 30% more expensive than buying the same in the US or Hong Kong (which is pretty crummy, but possibly related to taxes and the cost of doing business in the EU). EDIT: I don't mean VAT/sales tax, I've considered sales taxes in the comparison, but also exchange rates of $1.18/1€. The difference is almost exactly 30%. It looks like the cost of doing business in the EU is much higher, and/or Apple chooses to price their products however they want by region.
- tiernano 6y agoMost of the US priced don't include tax... Eu prices include vat...
- dschuler 6y agoI did include CA sales tax (in Los Angeles) of 9.5%, vs the VAT-inclusive price in France/Germany/Italy, and the difference _after_ including those was about 30% higher in the EU. Germany was the lowest, probably because they temp. reduced their sales tax from 19% to 16%. I can actually get a round-trip economy flight (pre-COVID and now) to LA just to buy a Mac mini, and save about $400. It's really.. unfortunate.
- garmaine 6y agoIt's not just sales tax, there's also import taxes no?
- dschuler 6y agoThat's true, I'm comparing local purchase prices with currency conversion rates. The rest depends on your personal situation and tax jurisdiction.
- garmaine 6y agoNo what I mean is that Apple pays import duties to bring the computer into the EU from its point of manufacture. This further increases the cost compared with the US or a duty-free zone like Hong Kong. 30% overall increase of price is what I would expect for import duties + VAT, so Apple isn’t overcharging here.