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Will existing programs run on this?

• azhenley 6y ago
  Yes, they have an Intel emulator (Rosetta I think they called it) and are pushing developers to produce "universal apps".
  • randmeerkat 6y ago
    Here’s more details on Rosetta: https://www.theverge.com/21304182/apple-arm-mac-rosetta-2-emulation-app-converter-explainer https://www.theverge.com/21304182/apple-arm-mac-rosetta-2-em... It actually depends on the app and what it’s doing. For example they said photoshop wouldn’t be available on it until early 2021.
    • wtetzner 6y ago
      They said Photoshop won't be available as a universal binary until 2021. It wasn't clear if it would run on Rosetta 2 in the meantime.
  • capableweb 6y ago
    "Universal apps" that only run on OSX and Apple's mobile OS I presume?
    • alwillis 6y ago
      Universal apps run on both Apple Silicon (ARM) processors and Intel processor-based Macs.
      • capableweb 6y ago
        Oh, so if I run Windows/Linux on the Intel based Mac I can run these Universal apps? Sounds very un-Apple-like if true. If not true, then my original comment seems to still stand.
        • gord288 6y ago
          No, "Universal" apps in this context means these apps can run in Mac OS, either on an Intel Mac or on an Apple Silicon (ARM) Mac. Nothing at all to do with iOS, iPadOS, Windows or Linux.
          • capableweb 6y ago
            Isn't that misleading marketing? I know that companies can call their new efforts whatever they want, but if someone sells a "Universal keyboard" that only works with Windows, isn't that just straight up misleading marketing? The only thing that comes close to being "universal apps" would be applications that run in a browser.
            • alwillis 6y ago
              An M1-based Mac will run: * Universal apps (also known as "fat binaries") that run natively on Intel and M1 Macs * ARM-native Mac apps * Intel-based Mac apps via Rosetta 2 * iOS/iPadOS apps (developer’s choice) * Unix/BSD command line apps (Vim, tmux, bash, zsh, etc.) * Linux via’s built-in hypervisor * Java * Electron apps (VS Code, Slack, etc.) * Windows via virtualization * Web apps (Service Workers, WASM, push notifications, etc.) on Safari, Chrome, etc. Safari is already a universal app; I'm sure Chrome, Firefox, etc. will follow shortly.
  • bochoh 6y ago
    Rosetta 2 is the newest version. The universal apps are just an export in XCode from what the presentation made it seem like. Developers exclaiming it took 10 minutes to do the universal app build.
    • RandallBrown 6y ago
      Universal apps have existed since the transition from PowerPC. For most apps it's simply recompiling in Xcode and it creates a fat binary with both architectures. Any apps that rely on specific intel libraries will have a bit more work to do.
      • bochoh 6y ago
        Ah that distinction was not made in the presentation. Thanks for this.
• buf 6y ago
  Yes, its's backwards compatible, but older programs will not take advantages of the chip in larger ways yet.
  • RL_Quine 6y ago
    No? It’s not x86. Compatibility is emulated.