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Bush/Gore took 37 days to resolve or something like that.

frankbreetz 6y ago
Yeah, but that was close. Florida was determined by around 500 votes and determined the president. There was no winner declared by the AP. This is a completely different situation. Trump needs Pennsylvania AND Nevada AND Georgia AND Arizona to flip. All those states have margins of 10,000+ in Biden's favor. The election is over.
- mmastrac 6y ago
  This is just a long ego-cushioning landing for reality for a large number of people. The baseless claims will be tossed and there will be more ugly accusations, but it's basically over other than a bunch of bellyaching.
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- umanwizard 6y ago
  Agree in spirit, but > Trump needs Pennsylvania AND Nevada AND Georgia AND Arizona to flip. isn’t quite right. He needs PA and any two of NV/GA/AZ.
  - pwinnski 6y ago
    So he'll need to undo 45,103 and counting PA votes, plus let's go with the smaller two[0] and say 14,746 votes and counting in AZ plus 12,425 votes and counting in GA. All of this based entirely on votes received on or before Election Day, not even counting late-arriving ballots. It seems hard to see how he's going to have more than 72k ballots disqualified, all of which happen to be for his opponent. 537 votes on butterfly ballots in Florida this is not. 0. In Nevada, Biden has a 36,186 vote lead and counting, greater than his lead in both Arizona and Georgia combined.
refurb 6y ago
This is what I keep going back to. We're not really in new territory. Challenges will be raised and either accepted or rejected. We'll know for certain whose is president soon enough. My guess is things won't change from what they are now, but I've been wrong many times when it comes to US politics.
- TheHypnotist 6y ago
  This is very much different for a few reasons. First of all, the issue is purported wide-spread fraudulent activities, of which there is no evidence. Second of all, we're not talking a few hundred votes in a single county of a single state. We're looking at multiple routes to defeat for Trump by thousands or ten's of thounsands of votes. Effectively what this is, is yet another misinformation campaign by our President who refuses to accept what is happening. That said, he's technically in his right to ask for recounts and file lawsuits.
  - refurb 6y ago
    It's not just fraudulent activities but things like "can the state keep accepting mail-in ballots for 9 days after the polls close"?
    - TheHypnotist 6y ago
      Right, but these rules were decided prior to the election and governed by individual states. It's a bit of a non-issue at this point.
      - refurb 6y ago
        They were challenged in court, but can be appealed. They are certainly not final decisions at this point.

Yeah, but that was close. Florida was determined by around 500 votes and determined the president. There was no winner declared by the AP. This is a completely different situation. Trump needs Pennsylvania AND Nevada AND Georgia AND Arizona to flip. All those states have margins of 10,000+ in Biden's favor. The election is over.

mmastrac 6y ago
This is just a long ego-cushioning landing for reality for a large number of people. The baseless claims will be tossed and there will be more ugly accusations, but it's basically over other than a bunch of bellyaching.
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umanwizard 6y ago
Agree in spirit, but > Trump needs Pennsylvania AND Nevada AND Georgia AND Arizona to flip. isn’t quite right. He needs PA and any two of NV/GA/AZ.
- pwinnski 6y ago
  So he'll need to undo 45,103 and counting PA votes, plus let's go with the smaller two[0] and say 14,746 votes and counting in AZ plus 12,425 votes and counting in GA. All of this based entirely on votes received on or before Election Day, not even counting late-arriving ballots. It seems hard to see how he's going to have more than 72k ballots disqualified, all of which happen to be for his opponent. 537 votes on butterfly ballots in Florida this is not. 0. In Nevada, Biden has a 36,186 vote lead and counting, greater than his lead in both Arizona and Georgia combined.

refurb 6y ago

This is what I keep going back to. We're not really in new territory. Challenges will be raised and either accepted or rejected. We'll know for certain whose is president soon enough. My guess is things won't change from what they are now, but I've been wrong many times when it comes to US politics.

TheHypnotist 6y ago
This is very much different for a few reasons. First of all, the issue is purported wide-spread fraudulent activities, of which there is no evidence. Second of all, we're not talking a few hundred votes in a single county of a single state. We're looking at multiple routes to defeat for Trump by thousands or ten's of thounsands of votes. Effectively what this is, is yet another misinformation campaign by our President who refuses to accept what is happening. That said, he's technically in his right to ask for recounts and file lawsuits.
- refurb 6y ago
  It's not just fraudulent activities but things like "can the state keep accepting mail-in ballots for 9 days after the polls close"?
  - TheHypnotist 6y ago
    Right, but these rules were decided prior to the election and governed by individual states. It's a bit of a non-issue at this point.
    - refurb 6y ago
      They were challenged in court, but can be appealed. They are certainly not final decisions at this point.