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The views of modern world amaze me. In last century, we fought against gender descrimination, then race descrimation (and still continued). Long way to go when
by croh 6y ago
The views of modern world amaze me. In last century, we fought against gender descrimination, then race descrimation (and still continued). Long way to go when time will come to fight against national identity and then planetary.
I am still waiting for time when humanity starts treating animals equally. It doesn't make sense how your race/gender/creed descrimation is different than animal. Only because they can't talk your language, it doesn't mean they don't have feelings or dosnt suffer.
When that generation will come, they will look down us the way we look at slavery in previous centuries.
- Fnoord 6y agoThis is called speciesism [1]. Problem I have with all of it is the black-white thinking. You are either vegetarian, or you are not. You are either vegan, or you are not. Whereas you simply aren't, depending on how far you stretch the definition. If it comes to giving up and alienating people for being imperfect, I believe that is harmful. Hence I applaud reducetarianism. Either way, however far you take it, the direct connection between eating meat and animal suffering is easier and easier for an individual to work around. Because society is getting more and more vegetarian and vegan friendly. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism
- alisonkisk 6y agoImagine if people took a reducetarian attitude toward murder. It doesn't make a lot of sense, which is why people choose one big moral lie over self-awarely violating their own morality every day.
- Fnoord 6y ago> Imagine if people took a reducetarian attitude toward murder. Why not? Imagine we are murdering thousands of people every day. We're able to reduce this by say 50%. How is that not an achievement? Compare it to slavery. What if we are able to have slaves live with more freedom than the status quo? What if we are able to liberate 50% of all slaves? Isn't that commendable? Again, you step right into the bifurcation (black and white thinking) trap.
- names_are_hard 6y agoWe do take a reducetarian approach to murder, it's called ethical warfare. For a number of reasons most people accept that warfare is a reality today, despite wishing it wouldn't happen. Even so, they attempt to minimize the damage where possible, and they attempt to create rules limiting how evil war should get.
- Fnoord 6y agoGreat example, thanks for mentioning. I had it in the back of my mind, but I couldn't quite put my finger on how to explain it with that example.
- cosmodisk 6y agoBut will it come? Human is the top predator on this planet,no other animal comes even remotely close. We are hard to hunt, have lots of sneaky ways to avoid danger and cause maximum harm to those who try to use us as food. Personally I think the only reason that could change it would be some global phenomenon that would result in very limited options growing animals. Maybe then we'd go to making protein bars and animal killing would be a distant memory.
- Thorrez 6y agoThe ant crawling on my floor is in Kingdom Animalia. Does it deserve the same rights as a human? I say no way. Humans are unique in terms of dignity.