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> I imagine it wouldn't be terribly hard to run the machines so that only one full-screen window is shown, or a user for whom the internet is disabled. Is that

> I imagine it wouldn't be terribly hard to run the machines so that only one full-screen window is shown, or a user for whom the internet is disabled. Is that not enough? Many of the anti-cheating software will also run the webcam and yell at you if it thinks you aren't paying attention to only the screen, while recording everything on your screen. And students are being forced to install this on their home machines.

Fnoord 6y ago
> And students are being forced to install this on their home machines. Wait, what if I work from home and my kid is sitting in the living room as well. I get recorded then? WTF??? Who owns these machines? Is it the parents or the school or the government or who? What if they decline? Can someone explain why a child has to accept that they are being watched on a webcam without their consent? Without the consent of their parent? And, "either accept it or don't get allowed at exam" isn't a choice. They ain't going to high school yet, but I don't envision I would allow my children to be scrutinized by this. Then again, who expected COVID-19. I can only hope this is temporary, but perhaps its part of 'the new normal'.
- DanBC 6y ago
  > Wait, what if I work from home and my kid is sitting in the living room as well. I get recorded then? WTF??? If the software detects that you're in the room your kid fails.
  - Fnoord 6y ago
    Then my kid would fail, or they'd have to use their bedroom. Which is, IMO, a very private space.
    - tinus_hn 6y ago
      Too bad your opinion doesn’t matter. That is how this stuff works, you are not the first to complain, they’ve heard every argument you can come up with before and they don’t care.
      - Fnoord 6y ago
        While I am not from USA, supposedly in USA people also care about privacy. My opinion as a parent matters in the context of my child (as I am legally responsible), and in the end what matters is the law (which is above "don't care"). I'm very curious if this is even legal, and if so, in which jurisdictions. If I don't give my child permission to have a camera active in my private space, what is going to happen?
        DanBC 6y ago
        > If I don't give my child permission to have a camera active in my private space, what is going to happen? Your child will not be allowed to take the exam.
        NewOrderNow 6y ago
        I am curious about people like you. We know the outcome answer they want, but someone like you chimes in an claims it can't be been done. Can you explain this defeatist attitude to me and what purpose it does providing the already known negative outcome? To me, the language you used suggested that you are already bought, sold, and controlled.
        Shared404 6y ago
        Unless you have enough money/lawyers to fight it in court, there really isn't much option. You take the tests, with the software, or you fail.
        NewOrderNow 6y ago
        What would you do in that situation if it were you. I would personally choose to fail and not be apart of a system that does this, but it sounds like you embrace it?
        powersnail 6y ago

Fnoord 6y ago

> And students are being forced to install this on their home machines. Wait, what if I work from home and my kid is sitting in the living room as well. I get recorded then? WTF??? Who owns these machines? Is it the parents or the school or the government or who? What if they decline? Can someone explain why a child has to accept that they are being watched on a webcam without their consent? Without the consent of their parent? And, "either accept it or don't get allowed at exam" isn't a choice. They ain't going to high school yet, but I don't envision I would allow my children to be scrutinized by this. Then again, who expected COVID-19. I can only hope this is temporary, but perhaps its part of 'the new normal'.

DanBC 6y ago
> Wait, what if I work from home and my kid is sitting in the living room as well. I get recorded then? WTF??? If the software detects that you're in the room your kid fails.
- Fnoord 6y ago
  Then my kid would fail, or they'd have to use their bedroom. Which is, IMO, a very private space.
  - tinus_hn 6y ago
    Too bad your opinion doesn’t matter. That is how this stuff works, you are not the first to complain, they’ve heard every argument you can come up with before and they don’t care.
    - Fnoord 6y ago
      While I am not from USA, supposedly in USA people also care about privacy. My opinion as a parent matters in the context of my child (as I am legally responsible), and in the end what matters is the law (which is above "don't care"). I'm very curious if this is even legal, and if so, in which jurisdictions. If I don't give my child permission to have a camera active in my private space, what is going to happen?
      - DanBC 6y ago
        > If I don't give my child permission to have a camera active in my private space, what is going to happen? Your child will not be allowed to take the exam.
        NewOrderNow 6y ago
        I am curious about people like you. We know the outcome answer they want, but someone like you chimes in an claims it can't be been done. Can you explain this defeatist attitude to me and what purpose it does providing the already known negative outcome? To me, the language you used suggested that you are already bought, sold, and controlled.
        Shared404 6y ago
        Unless you have enough money/lawyers to fight it in court, there really isn't much option. You take the tests, with the software, or you fail.
        NewOrderNow 6y ago
        What would you do in that situation if it were you. I would personally choose to fail and not be apart of a system that does this, but it sounds like you embrace it?
        powersnail 6y ago