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Roger Penrose says it's emergent because quantum mechanics is emergent. You can also find stuff by David Bohm saying something similar regarding Bohmian mechani
by kordlessagain 6y ago
Roger Penrose says it's emergent because quantum mechanics is emergent. You can also find stuff by David Bohm saying something similar regarding Bohmian mechanics or de Broglie-Bohm theory.
Here is Hameroff and Penrose's paper on Orch OR: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1571064513001188#fg0030 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S157106451....
- goodGood00 6y agoI don’t get the point of the argument anymore? If it emerges from the fundamental features that themselves emerges from “lower” features, isn’t anything “higher up” going to happen? It did for us so it always would? These guys are really circling for semantics not theories of reality and consciousness. Has anyone considered English is just a terrible system for this sort of reasoning? I’ll give a virologist and other applied math types props for data driven and concrete outcomes. These post-modernists are just deconstructing/reconstructing in circles for book sales, IMO. If they can output something concrete humanity can use give them all the gold in the world. Otherwise it’s just a book club to me anymore