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While the effort is noble, facts unfortunately will not matter. There is a coup underway, no matter how impolite it is to say so. Doubt is being sowed in the pr

While the effort is noble, facts unfortunately will not matter. There is a coup underway, no matter how impolite it is to say so. Doubt is being sowed in the presidential election results, more so every day. The ruling party realized some time ago that belief frequently trumps facts, and this present situation is little different. As long as they can get people to believe the election is fraudulent, then they can maintain power. This is what they are presently doing. (And are likely to succeed, I fear.)

toomuchtodo 6y ago
I’m not worried. Those who are responsible for elections will certify the election results, and the government can evict those trespassing. The machinery isn’t fooled. It’s still important to refute mistruths presented without data.
- mmastrac 6y ago
  What makes me nervous is the pre-stacked supreme court. This has been a months-long strategy beginning with neutering and disabling of the USPS, attacking the validity of mail-in ballots, and rushing a friendly candidate to the highest court.
  - Matticus_Rex 6y ago
    The Supreme Court is not a political rubber stamp for their party, as Gorsuch and even Kavanaugh have shown. They've never been that, and the idea that they'd become that for Donald Trump seems pretty implausible. They rule on questions of law, and they rule based on their legal philosophies. Yes, you see the reasoning look a bit motivated sometimes (looking at you, Alito and Breyer), but the idea that these are people who will throw away their credibility and careers to abet a coup? Naaaah. They'd have a hard enough time going after gay marriage -- I'd bet Gorsuch and Kavanaugh would vote to uphold Obergefell today if they heard it, and we already know Roberts' vote.
mcphage 6y ago
It won't succeed in changing the outcome of the election—but I doubt that's the plan. Instead, it's to create a widespread feeling that the election was stolen, and use that resentment to support obstructionism and as fuel for the next election.

toomuchtodo 6y ago

I’m not worried. Those who are responsible for elections will certify the election results, and the government can evict those trespassing. The machinery isn’t fooled. It’s still important to refute mistruths presented without data.

mmastrac 6y ago
What makes me nervous is the pre-stacked supreme court. This has been a months-long strategy beginning with neutering and disabling of the USPS, attacking the validity of mail-in ballots, and rushing a friendly candidate to the highest court.
- Matticus_Rex 6y ago
  The Supreme Court is not a political rubber stamp for their party, as Gorsuch and even Kavanaugh have shown. They've never been that, and the idea that they'd become that for Donald Trump seems pretty implausible. They rule on questions of law, and they rule based on their legal philosophies. Yes, you see the reasoning look a bit motivated sometimes (looking at you, Alito and Breyer), but the idea that these are people who will throw away their credibility and careers to abet a coup? Naaaah. They'd have a hard enough time going after gay marriage -- I'd bet Gorsuch and Kavanaugh would vote to uphold Obergefell today if they heard it, and we already know Roberts' vote.

mcphage 6y ago

It won't succeed in changing the outcome of the election—but I doubt that's the plan. Instead, it's to create a widespread feeling that the election was stolen, and use that resentment to support obstructionism and as fuel for the next election.