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Wait so the author was only able to debunk the first claim but actually corroborated the second. Can anyone offer an explanation to the ballots being returned b

Wait so the author was only able to debunk the first claim but actually corroborated the second. Can anyone offer an explanation to the ballots being returned before even being mailed?

mmastrac 6y ago
Data entry error? Buggy systems that were never designed to use this as a fraud measure?
elicash 6y ago
Certainly the division of elections in PA could. The rest of us are just speculating. For example, we know some PA voters received two ballots (issue was corrected): https://whyy.org/articles/glitch-sends-some-pa-voters-duplicate-mail-ballots-but-officials-say-only-one-will-be-counted/ https://whyy.org/articles/glitch-sends-some-pa-voters-duplic... Others received incorrect ballots and had to get mailed a second, correct one (issue was corrected): https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-local/2020/10/14/Election-ballots-mail-in-absentee-incorrect-allegheny-county-pittsburgh-voters/stories/202010140139 https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-local/2020/10/14/... Whether this is responsible for the discrepancy, I have no idea. Of course, it's also possible that the mail date is wrong, or that we're misunderstanding what it means. Someone else floated possibility of issues with military ballots. My hope is that somebody calls and asks, because it could be a simple explanation. I don't see any reason to assume the worst. Props to the blog author for great work.
- r00fus 6y ago
  This happened to my mom in CA. Two ballots sent a few days apart. If she had returned the first one already in the mail before receiving 2nd, then this discrepancy would have shown up in this way. Of course she shredded and discarded the 2nd one.
torstenvl 6y ago
Military and provisional ballots don't need to be mailed (I received mine by email). Perhaps the system requires a "date mailed" entry and they just arbitrarily enter the current date when they process them, to satisfy the system? Pure speculation on my part though.
jsight 6y ago
Don't some states do in-person absentee, and those get reported effectively the same as mail in, but with all dates/times the same? Could that be the case here?
um_ya 6y ago
Benford's Law, the gold standard for finding accounting fraud, shows a clear discrepancy with the Biden count. Winsconsin: https://media.thedonald.win/post/HoChVlMD.png https://media.thedonald.win/post/HoChVlMD.png Michigan: https://media.thedonald.win/post/0tcnCVZF.png https://media.thedonald.win/post/0tcnCVZF.png Pennsylvania: https://media.thedonald.win/post/nLvK1Ih5.png https://media.thedonald.win/post/nLvK1Ih5.png
- smbullet 6y ago
  I don't get it. What set of numbers is being used to plot this distribution?

Wait so the author was only able to debunk the first claim but actually corroborated the second. Can anyone offer an explanation to the ballots being returned before even being mailed?

mmastrac 6y ago

Data entry error? Buggy systems that were never designed to use this as a fraud measure?

elicash 6y ago

Certainly the division of elections in PA could. The rest of us are just speculating. For example, we know some PA voters received two ballots (issue was corrected): https://whyy.org/articles/glitch-sends-some-pa-voters-duplicate-mail-ballots-but-officials-say-only-one-will-be-counted/ https://whyy.org/articles/glitch-sends-some-pa-voters-duplic... Others received incorrect ballots and had to get mailed a second, correct one (issue was corrected): https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-local/2020/10/14/Election-ballots-mail-in-absentee-incorrect-allegheny-county-pittsburgh-voters/stories/202010140139 https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-local/2020/10/14/... Whether this is responsible for the discrepancy, I have no idea. Of course, it's also possible that the mail date is wrong, or that we're misunderstanding what it means. Someone else floated possibility of issues with military ballots. My hope is that somebody calls and asks, because it could be a simple explanation. I don't see any reason to assume the worst. Props to the blog author for great work.

r00fus 6y ago
This happened to my mom in CA. Two ballots sent a few days apart. If she had returned the first one already in the mail before receiving 2nd, then this discrepancy would have shown up in this way. Of course she shredded and discarded the 2nd one.

torstenvl 6y ago

Military and provisional ballots don't need to be mailed (I received mine by email). Perhaps the system requires a "date mailed" entry and they just arbitrarily enter the current date when they process them, to satisfy the system? Pure speculation on my part though.

jsight 6y ago

Don't some states do in-person absentee, and those get reported effectively the same as mail in, but with all dates/times the same? Could that be the case here?

um_ya 6y ago

Benford's Law, the gold standard for finding accounting fraud, shows a clear discrepancy with the Biden count. Winsconsin: https://media.thedonald.win/post/HoChVlMD.png https://media.thedonald.win/post/HoChVlMD.png Michigan: https://media.thedonald.win/post/0tcnCVZF.png https://media.thedonald.win/post/0tcnCVZF.png Pennsylvania: https://media.thedonald.win/post/nLvK1Ih5.png https://media.thedonald.win/post/nLvK1Ih5.png

smbullet 6y ago
I don't get it. What set of numbers is being used to plot this distribution?