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I’m sorry, but this is missing the point. You’re forbidden from traveling FROM a country on whatever list (some are outright lists, some are based on the infect

I’m sorry, but this is missing the point. You’re forbidden from traveling FROM a country on whatever list (some are outright lists, some are based on the infection rate, etc.). Traveling FROM the US is the problem, regardless of where your passport is from. Getting a passport (or even a residence card) from an EU country would only allow you to get back to THAT country, it doesn’t just suddenly open up the world to you.

vntok 6y ago
The Schengen Area ( /ˈʃɛŋən/) is an area comprising 26 European countries that have officially abolished all passport and all other types of border control at their mutual borders. The area mostly functions as a single jurisdiction for international travel purposes, with a common visa policy. The area is named after the 1985 Schengen Agreement signed in Schengen, Luxembourg. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area
- chrismeller 6y ago
  I’m sorry, have you lived in Europe recently? Paid any attention to the news this year? Every country in that agreement reserves the right to restrict travel in times of emergency. Pandemics apply. For instance: Estonia forbids travel from any country with an infection rate higher than x/100k (x keeps changing...) During the first pandemic lockdown the Baltics were open at first, then Finland shut their borders, then they all shut their borders. Poland agreed to let people traverse the country... then decided not to. Estonia had to send a ship to rescue citizens from the Polish border. For a while a few months ago you couldn’t come to Estonia from the UK, but if you flew into Helsinki and then flew to Estonia it was fine. Know your facts.
  - vntok 6y ago
    Hum yes, I'm French and have lived here for about 30 years or so. Travel across the EU is much much easier if you're a EU citizen, ceteris paribus. It's actually pretty funny that you would refer to that convoluted situation where one would have to fly first to Helsinki then to Estonia, considering both Finland and Estonia are in Schengen so no document would be required of an EU citizen to adapt their travel plans at the last minute.
    - chrismeller 6y ago
      Well then you haven’t paid attention to anything this year. Schengen means nothing during Corona.
ciceryadam 6y ago
Well, yes, but if you are traveling to a country where you have a citizenship, it's considered repatriation, so travel rules do not apply (but you usually have different set of rules to abide). And a completely different set of rules also applies for international truck drivers, another for cross-country commuters, etc.
- chrismeller 6y ago
  With a dozen or so asterisks, you are correct. Poland stopped all traffic at its border during the last lockdown, for instance.
  - ciceryadam 6y ago
    You mean this https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fco-statement-on-poland-travel-advice https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fco-statement-on-poland-t... ? Slovakia had a similar traffic stop. People had to cross the border crossings on foot - and international trade was exempt from this. Also, when they crossed, they were loaded on buses and sent to mandatory 14 day quarantine to state facilities. AFAIK only Belarus forbids repatriation, and it has more to do with the demonstrations against the regime than COVID.
nwsm 6y ago
> Traveling FROM the US is the problem, regardless of where your passport is from. Which is why he would be traveling from Cyprus
- chrismeller 6y ago
  No... if he flies from JFK to Cyprus he’ll be allowed. That doesn’t mean that he can connect through to London or Dubai without being stopped. It also doesn’t mean that spending the night there suddenly opens up the world to him - if you’ve been in a (for lack of a better term) “blacklisted” country in the last 14 days you still have to quarantine.

vntok 6y ago

The Schengen Area ( /ˈʃɛŋən/) is an area comprising 26 European countries that have officially abolished all passport and all other types of border control at their mutual borders. The area mostly functions as a single jurisdiction for international travel purposes, with a common visa policy. The area is named after the 1985 Schengen Agreement signed in Schengen, Luxembourg. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area

chrismeller 6y ago
I’m sorry, have you lived in Europe recently? Paid any attention to the news this year? Every country in that agreement reserves the right to restrict travel in times of emergency. Pandemics apply. For instance: Estonia forbids travel from any country with an infection rate higher than x/100k (x keeps changing...) During the first pandemic lockdown the Baltics were open at first, then Finland shut their borders, then they all shut their borders. Poland agreed to let people traverse the country... then decided not to. Estonia had to send a ship to rescue citizens from the Polish border. For a while a few months ago you couldn’t come to Estonia from the UK, but if you flew into Helsinki and then flew to Estonia it was fine. Know your facts.
- vntok 6y ago
  Hum yes, I'm French and have lived here for about 30 years or so. Travel across the EU is much much easier if you're a EU citizen, ceteris paribus. It's actually pretty funny that you would refer to that convoluted situation where one would have to fly first to Helsinki then to Estonia, considering both Finland and Estonia are in Schengen so no document would be required of an EU citizen to adapt their travel plans at the last minute.
  - chrismeller 6y ago
    Well then you haven’t paid attention to anything this year. Schengen means nothing during Corona.

ciceryadam 6y ago

Well, yes, but if you are traveling to a country where you have a citizenship, it's considered repatriation, so travel rules do not apply (but you usually have different set of rules to abide). And a completely different set of rules also applies for international truck drivers, another for cross-country commuters, etc.

chrismeller 6y ago
With a dozen or so asterisks, you are correct. Poland stopped all traffic at its border during the last lockdown, for instance.
- ciceryadam 6y ago
  You mean this https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fco-statement-on-poland-travel-advice https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fco-statement-on-poland-t... ? Slovakia had a similar traffic stop. People had to cross the border crossings on foot - and international trade was exempt from this. Also, when they crossed, they were loaded on buses and sent to mandatory 14 day quarantine to state facilities. AFAIK only Belarus forbids repatriation, and it has more to do with the demonstrations against the regime than COVID.

nwsm 6y ago

> Traveling FROM the US is the problem, regardless of where your passport is from. Which is why he would be traveling from Cyprus

chrismeller 6y ago
No... if he flies from JFK to Cyprus he’ll be allowed. That doesn’t mean that he can connect through to London or Dubai without being stopped. It also doesn’t mean that spending the night there suddenly opens up the world to him - if you’ve been in a (for lack of a better term) “blacklisted” country in the last 14 days you still have to quarantine.