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People can be irrational when it comes to their diets, but that doesn’t make them wrong. Some people care and some don’t. Restaurants tend to take the strictes

People can be irrational when it comes to their diets, but that doesn’t make them wrong. Some people care and some don’t. Restaurants tend to take the strictest interpretation of a diet because that minimizes angry customers.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago
Yeah and I don't like kale in my food. Clearly I'm not wrong, because apparently nobody is. But a busy restaurant is not the place to make a fuss over where a particular dish was cooked. I don't get to insist on a separate pot to make my meal, because it might get polluted by kale. It is wrong, it a real sense, to have unreasonable personal rules about a restaurant kitchen.
- amanzi 6y ago
  Yes but if you tell the restaurant to not put kale in your food, and they go ahead and cook it in kale juice anyway, you'd be a bit annoyed right? Burger King aren't complaining about it - they are still promoting the plant-based aspects of the burger, but aren't claiming that it's a vegetarian meal. Nobody is making a big deal about it.
- 3131s 6y ago
  > It is wrong, it a real sense, to have unreasonable personal rules about a restaurant kitchen. It's wrong to eat meat.
  - JoeAltmaier 6y ago
    Says you. Others (by the billions) say otherwise. Raising a stink in a public restaurant makes you look silly. Witness the widespread cultural backlash against it. This is all obvious and well-known. I know that righteous indignation is a drug, and it shows mostly on the internet, thank goodness. But we should all strive to break the addiction. The world will be a better place.
    - 3131s 6y ago
      Ignorance is a drug. Righteous indignation is just anger, the only emotion that ever drives real progress. The world would be a better place if you and everybody else stopped eating meat, sorry that triggers you.
      - JoeAltmaier 6y ago
        Nah no problem. Look silly all you like. I'm just trying to help here. Everybody has their own place they've reached on their journey. Some are still in their early idealistic phase - like a college junior with all the answers and nothing better to do than shoot the bull. Some have seen a bit of water under the bridge, and recognize this.
        3131s 6y ago
        Your condescension is obnoxious and pathetic -- I've lived and seen more than you ever will. You're the "bull" in this analogy? Haha! I couldn't care less about your boring, pointless "journey".
    - jgwil2 6y ago
      According to you, it's wrong "in a real sense" to make a fuss at a restaurant. According to others it's wrong to eat meat. Who are we to say which is worse? Which ultimately causes more harm and suffering in the world? It's great that you're not a fussy eater. Now try to show some respect for people who make different choices than you. And speaking of righteous indignation, you are showing a good deal of it in the face of some imagined restaurant incident; everyone else has simply pointed out that you can't sell non-vegetarian food as vegetarian.
      - JoeAltmaier 6y ago
        Misbehaving in public, routinely, is just annoying and disrespectful. There (should be) standard for behavior in public. That's a basis for civilization. And don't be silly - everybody has had to suffer through the lunch-time episode of somebody at the table grilling the waiter about how the food is cooked and what exactly is in it and don't they know they should do it different? While everybody else wishes they'd get on with it because we're hungry. Takes no imagination at all.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago

Yeah and I don't like kale in my food. Clearly I'm not wrong, because apparently nobody is. But a busy restaurant is not the place to make a fuss over where a particular dish was cooked. I don't get to insist on a separate pot to make my meal, because it might get polluted by kale. It is wrong, it a real sense, to have unreasonable personal rules about a restaurant kitchen.

amanzi 6y ago
Yes but if you tell the restaurant to not put kale in your food, and they go ahead and cook it in kale juice anyway, you'd be a bit annoyed right? Burger King aren't complaining about it - they are still promoting the plant-based aspects of the burger, but aren't claiming that it's a vegetarian meal. Nobody is making a big deal about it.
3131s 6y ago
> It is wrong, it a real sense, to have unreasonable personal rules about a restaurant kitchen. It's wrong to eat meat.
- JoeAltmaier 6y ago
  Says you. Others (by the billions) say otherwise. Raising a stink in a public restaurant makes you look silly. Witness the widespread cultural backlash against it. This is all obvious and well-known. I know that righteous indignation is a drug, and it shows mostly on the internet, thank goodness. But we should all strive to break the addiction. The world will be a better place.
  - 3131s 6y ago
    Ignorance is a drug. Righteous indignation is just anger, the only emotion that ever drives real progress. The world would be a better place if you and everybody else stopped eating meat, sorry that triggers you.
    - JoeAltmaier 6y ago
      Nah no problem. Look silly all you like. I'm just trying to help here. Everybody has their own place they've reached on their journey. Some are still in their early idealistic phase - like a college junior with all the answers and nothing better to do than shoot the bull. Some have seen a bit of water under the bridge, and recognize this.
      - 3131s 6y ago
        Your condescension is obnoxious and pathetic -- I've lived and seen more than you ever will. You're the "bull" in this analogy? Haha! I couldn't care less about your boring, pointless "journey".
  - jgwil2 6y ago
    According to you, it's wrong "in a real sense" to make a fuss at a restaurant. According to others it's wrong to eat meat. Who are we to say which is worse? Which ultimately causes more harm and suffering in the world? It's great that you're not a fussy eater. Now try to show some respect for people who make different choices than you. And speaking of righteous indignation, you are showing a good deal of it in the face of some imagined restaurant incident; everyone else has simply pointed out that you can't sell non-vegetarian food as vegetarian.
    - JoeAltmaier 6y ago
      Misbehaving in public, routinely, is just annoying and disrespectful. There (should be) standard for behavior in public. That's a basis for civilization. And don't be silly - everybody has had to suffer through the lunch-time episode of somebody at the table grilling the waiter about how the food is cooked and what exactly is in it and don't they know they should do it different? While everybody else wishes they'd get on with it because we're hungry. Takes no imagination at all.