I can't tell if you're saying that examples are not enough to back my points or if those examples just don't back my points at all. If it's the latter: [1] is

I can't tell if you're saying that examples are not enough to back my points or if those examples just don't back my points at all. If it's the latter: [1] is an example that illustrates the complexity of C++. Show me a style guide or debates about how to use the core of the language in objc. [2] is an example of someone unsatisfied with memory management and string support in c++. There are tons of those out there. Show me one for objc. Admittedly memory management is a matter of taste, but I retain/release/autorelease quite simple to use and I haven't found anything quite on a par with that mechanism in c++. [3] what do you mean "it can easily be done"? There's nothing being done there, the author is just observing how the implementation of arrays changes based on the size of the dataset; it's an example of the details behind CF. Are you saying STL automatically optimizes as well?