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This vaccine targets the entire spike protein. It is very difficult, from an evolutionary point of view (very high affinity for the ACE2 receptor), that the spi

This vaccine targets the entire spike protein. It is very difficult, from an evolutionary point of view (very high affinity for the ACE2 receptor), that the spike protein would change so much that the vaccine would be completely ineffective.

thu2111 6y ago
So why are they slaughtering millions of animals, on the basis that any mutation might reduce the effectiveness of a vaccine? If you're right then Denmark is engaging in mass cruelty to animals on an epic scale.
- ragged 6y ago
  As if their life in small cages wouldn't be cruelty enough.
- deeeeplearning 6y ago
  I believe the mass cruelty was farming minks on a massive scale. Culling them is likely merciful in comparison. Never mind the fact that I'd happily trade 10 million minks to save a few human lives.
  - meddlepal 6y ago
    This is a useless response that contributes nothing nor answers the question. You basically danced around the question and justified the plan based on some sort of appeal to emotion.
    - Falling3 6y ago
      No. It's addressing a nonsensical claim in the parent comment. It is relevant in the context of that comment. And it's no more an appeal to emotion that the original comment was - which is to say not at all.
  - mkolodny 6y ago
    I think both are mass cruelty. The way we treat animals is the slavery of our time, if not much worse. We keep using words like "cull" instead of "kill" or "mass murder", as though it's not killing if the animal doesn't look like us. Just because you're more intelligent or more capable than a different kind of animal, that doesn't mean that your life is worth more than theirs. And it definitely doesn't mean your life is worth millions of times more than theirs.
    - deeeeplearning 6y ago
      >The way we treat animals is the slavery of our time, if not much worse The woke police would like a word with you lmao... >Just because you're more intelligent or more capable than a different kind of animal, that doesn't mean that your life is worth more than theirs What kind of rinky dink PETA argument is this? If you have kids I hope you explain to them that in an emergency you are likely going to save the dog and not your child because "your life isn't worth more than the dog's."
- Falling3 6y ago
  You do understand the end state of effectively all animal farming is slaughter - right? This culling does absolutely nothing to make an already incredibly cruel process any more cruel.
- napier 6y ago
  They slaughter 80% of a given mink farm stock every year for their fur anyway — after raising in horrifically unpleasant stacked, cramped, caged conditions which are ideal for disease spread, mutation and recombination with coinfections. Sweden already has around ten detected SARS2 outbreaks on mink farms and is planning not to cull the entire population for the above harvest cycle related reason; the survivors will have ‘more space to socially distance’ and a ‘resultantly lower herd immunity threshold’. Dense factory farming of all kinds is a biohazard nightmare.

thu2111 6y ago

So why are they slaughtering millions of animals, on the basis that any mutation might reduce the effectiveness of a vaccine? If you're right then Denmark is engaging in mass cruelty to animals on an epic scale.

ragged 6y ago
As if their life in small cages wouldn't be cruelty enough.
deeeeplearning 6y ago
I believe the mass cruelty was farming minks on a massive scale. Culling them is likely merciful in comparison. Never mind the fact that I'd happily trade 10 million minks to save a few human lives.
- meddlepal 6y ago
  This is a useless response that contributes nothing nor answers the question. You basically danced around the question and justified the plan based on some sort of appeal to emotion.
  - Falling3 6y ago
    No. It's addressing a nonsensical claim in the parent comment. It is relevant in the context of that comment. And it's no more an appeal to emotion that the original comment was - which is to say not at all.
- mkolodny 6y ago
  I think both are mass cruelty. The way we treat animals is the slavery of our time, if not much worse. We keep using words like "cull" instead of "kill" or "mass murder", as though it's not killing if the animal doesn't look like us. Just because you're more intelligent or more capable than a different kind of animal, that doesn't mean that your life is worth more than theirs. And it definitely doesn't mean your life is worth millions of times more than theirs.
  - deeeeplearning 6y ago
    >The way we treat animals is the slavery of our time, if not much worse The woke police would like a word with you lmao... >Just because you're more intelligent or more capable than a different kind of animal, that doesn't mean that your life is worth more than theirs What kind of rinky dink PETA argument is this? If you have kids I hope you explain to them that in an emergency you are likely going to save the dog and not your child because "your life isn't worth more than the dog's."
Falling3 6y ago
You do understand the end state of effectively all animal farming is slaughter - right? This culling does absolutely nothing to make an already incredibly cruel process any more cruel.
napier 6y ago
They slaughter 80% of a given mink farm stock every year for their fur anyway — after raising in horrifically unpleasant stacked, cramped, caged conditions which are ideal for disease spread, mutation and recombination with coinfections. Sweden already has around ten detected SARS2 outbreaks on mink farms and is planning not to cull the entire population for the above harvest cycle related reason; the survivors will have ‘more space to socially distance’ and a ‘resultantly lower herd immunity threshold’. Dense factory farming of all kinds is a biohazard nightmare.