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Yup. But we do need the government to step in and do this (contact tracing etc.). Hopefully, with the new administration...
by sanp 6y ago
Yup. But we do need the government to step in and do this (contact tracing etc.). Hopefully, with the new administration...
- freebasenic 6y agoOur rate of transmission is too high to do a nationwide contact tracing effort I think. We need to reduce the daily number of cases before we properly implement a contact tracing program.
- standardUser 6y agoPerhaps a better way to say this: we need to implement a national contact tracing program immediately so that when the transmission rate declines to manageable levels it is operational.
- smt88 6y agoI assume you're talking about the US. My belief is that contact tracing is a cultural non-starter here. There are people who protest with large, semi-automatic rifles because they don't want to wear masks inside private businesses. There's absolutely no way they're going to trust a contact-tracing process championed by the government, even if there's no way for the government to access the data. I suspect much of the population will continue to ignore the virus and winter weather will cause a spike that will cripple hospitals.
- nickthemagicman 6y agoThey don't mean make sure everyone is comfortable with it. They mean by force via executive order and penalty of fines or imprisonment. If people don't want to obey they will make you obey and a large part of the country thinks this is a great idea.
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- throwaway4220 6y agoPlease don't push false narratives here. There has never been a mention of an executive order, let alone fines or imprisonment.
- nickthemagicman 6y agoAre you kidding me? Its all over the news. Have you read a single article since the election? Literally every single article is talking about the executive actions he's going to take. And the consequences for violating an executive order are fines and imprisonment. Maybe they should compare your throwaway account Ip with the rest of the account ips and see if this is a sock puppet account. Select ip_addy as source_ip from account_log where account_name=throwaway4220 join account_log on ip_addy=source_ip Ban you. Please stop pushing your fantasy narratives and puppet accounts here please.
- dkdk8283 6y agoThis will never happen, no matter how much you want it to. Nobody but isolated pockets of extremists think this way.
- nickthemagicman 6y agoI'm screenshotting this comment.
- procombo 6y agoIt appears one person's "extremism" is another person's "wisdom". If you've ever worked in state/federal government you'll get the sentiment. Sure it's speculative, but definitely not extremist.
- nickthemagicman 6y agoI forgot comments can't be deleted from HN. I'll be responding to you early to mid 2021 with a link to an article about Bidens executive order for a mask mandate.
- procombo 6y agoI live in an area where large guns are the norm. People wear masks. Nobody is protesting them. There are big trucks with polital 'T' signs, houses with 'B' signs. BLM rallies. And people put pink heart signs at the police station out of support. There are a lot of voices, and I love that we all here support that. Our county is spiking at the moment and it's directly related to a series of outdoor college parties (one was attended by thousands of people) where they went mask-free. It wasn't out of protest, they were just being ignorant, rebellious kids.
- mancerayder 6y agoI wrote a post about it above. I live in the bluest of blue states, which in the other comments here, in that narrative, you expect cooperation and all this stuff. A false media narrative, if I do say so, but that's not the point - the point is no one trusts the folks behind the technology, nor do we trust random phone numbers. So the Citizen App has contact tracing. But you have to check into the app, and furthermore, do you trust some private company with the information? About you? Your location and all this ? And contact tracing via government calling you - do you trust random numbers calling you and asking you questions? No one knows when Silicon Valley (in the case of the app) wants to steal some more of your private data, and no one knows when some phisher is phishing as opposed to some volunteer calling you up for contact tracing. There's a breakdown of trust. Oh, and saying, 'maybe this administration' is further evidence of that. I live in a blue state, and your perceptions are, I believe, wrong, about the magic around that or the cooperation of the citizenry.
- throwaway201103 6y agoExactly this. I'm not installing anything on my phone, and I don't answer phone calls that are not from my contacts. I've never been tested because I don't trust the testing companies. If I'm sick, I'll stay home. I wear a mask where I'm required to. That's the limit of my participation in this hysteria.
- mancerayder 6y agoI'm not that extreme. I'm happy with being tested, and I'll be happy with vaccines and so forth. It's Silicon Valley and its entire "you signed an agreement, you belong to us" morality and "get your attention span" business model that I distrust. Well, that and phishing phone calls/texts (I seem to get those regularly, after all this time).
- Gene_Parmesan 6y agoWell over 250,000 dead Americans with over 100,000 new cases per day and your word is "hysteria"? I'd rather use the word "crisis." In a bad year the flu kills 61,000 here. We're over four times that now and with no signs of slowing down. And I'm really not sure what there isn't to trust about the testing companies.