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> In what way does thousands of people self-reporting new and ongoing medical issues after a positive COVID diagnosis not constitute evidence that this is happe

> In what way does thousands of people self-reporting new and ongoing medical issues after a positive COVID diagnosis not constitute evidence that this is happening? What we see every single day in society by massive amounts of people. People getting ill from nocebos. Given the issues we know around self-reporting why on earth would you believe it? And given the massive amounts of hours and funding put into the coronavirus, the missing clinical data matters. Getting away from the trolling of the op, pretending they didn't know about the deaths. We know being on a respirator will cause damage. We know antibiotics or steroids or whatever causes damage. We know being in a coma will cause damage. What's being talked about is new/additional/unknown damage caused by this virus. The real data on this is slim.

nicoburns 6y ago
> We know being on a respirator will cause damage. We know antibiotics or steroids or whatever causes damage. We know being in a coma will cause damage. > What's being talked about is new/additional/unknown damage caused by this virus. The real data on this is slim. We know that similar viruses (e.g. SARS-COV-1) can cause long term damage to heart/lungs. We know that several viruses can cause post-viral chronic fatigue. > The real data on this is slim. I think what most people are calling for is more investigation into this. And in the meantime some caution is warranted regarding the possibility.
- djsumdog 6y ago
  > several viruses can cause post-viral chronic fatigue Right, and with over 95% of fatalities being people over 55, we know this virus affects the elderly disproportionally. Furthermore, TONS of infections cause major neurological damages, strokes and other conditions in the elderly, which rarely (but sometimes) affects young people as well. A minor fungal infection can leave you with complications that lead to permanent disability. What we are attributing to CoV2 may just be people who were alright at high risk for any infection, taking a particularly hit to this one.

nicoburns 6y ago

> We know being on a respirator will cause damage. We know antibiotics or steroids or whatever causes damage. We know being in a coma will cause damage. > What's being talked about is new/additional/unknown damage caused by this virus. The real data on this is slim. We know that similar viruses (e.g. SARS-COV-1) can cause long term damage to heart/lungs. We know that several viruses can cause post-viral chronic fatigue. > The real data on this is slim. I think what most people are calling for is more investigation into this. And in the meantime some caution is warranted regarding the possibility.

djsumdog 6y ago
> several viruses can cause post-viral chronic fatigue Right, and with over 95% of fatalities being people over 55, we know this virus affects the elderly disproportionally. Furthermore, TONS of infections cause major neurological damages, strokes and other conditions in the elderly, which rarely (but sometimes) affects young people as well. A minor fungal infection can leave you with complications that lead to permanent disability. What we are attributing to CoV2 may just be people who were alright at high risk for any infection, taking a particularly hit to this one.