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I agree. I actually don't think organic is as good as whatever natural methods were used. I would prefer wild or food grown on less 'managed' land - that woul

I agree. I actually don't think organic is as good as whatever natural methods were used. I would prefer wild or food grown on less 'managed' land - that would be the gold standard for me.

Melting_Harps 6y ago
> I agree. I actually don't think organic is as good as whatever natural methods were used. I would prefer wild or food grown on less 'managed' land - that would be the gold standard for me. Then you'd starve on your golden standard, and probably revert to the 30 year life expectancy most of Humanity had prior to the advent of agriculture. Collectively as a Species I don't think there is a single thing, maybe making potable water widely available and vaccinations, that has contributed to the advent of Modern Society more than agriculture. Foraging maybe a cute thing for the silver spoon crowds made popular by the guys at Noma/Rene Redzepi (I personally met some of the creative Team when they ate at our restaurant last year) but not only would it never scale, but you'd be screwed for anything to eat for 3-5 months out of the year in most of the World. And with the impact of climate change I doubt you'd last very long. Organic isn't a panacea, its a re-framing of the relationship one has with their food and by extension ourselves as so many diseases are borne from what has been a literally toxic and hostile relationship. I hope we get to see an analysis of Global COVID deaths in relation to heart disease, diabetes as well as a study of them as contributors to those deaths considered COVID related.
- feralimal 6y ago
  That's all a bit harsh! My gold standard is fair surely! I don't eat like that often, but I can dream! Agriculture is absolutely a boon to humanity. But that doesn't mean that I need to go along with big agra, does it? I don't agree with oil based fertilisers being used. And monocrops. It is absolutely the system we have, but its not a good one. Smaller farming, locally sourced food would be a better way to go. I am a fan of permaculture - I'm itching to try this when circumstances permit. This is a way of densely growing food.

I agree. I actually don't think organic is as good as whatever natural methods were used. I would prefer wild or food grown on less 'managed' land - that would be the gold standard for me.

Melting_Harps 6y ago

> I agree. I actually don't think organic is as good as whatever natural methods were used. I would prefer wild or food grown on less 'managed' land - that would be the gold standard for me. Then you'd starve on your golden standard, and probably revert to the 30 year life expectancy most of Humanity had prior to the advent of agriculture. Collectively as a Species I don't think there is a single thing, maybe making potable water widely available and vaccinations, that has contributed to the advent of Modern Society more than agriculture. Foraging maybe a cute thing for the silver spoon crowds made popular by the guys at Noma/Rene Redzepi (I personally met some of the creative Team when they ate at our restaurant last year) but not only would it never scale, but you'd be screwed for anything to eat for 3-5 months out of the year in most of the World. And with the impact of climate change I doubt you'd last very long. Organic isn't a panacea, its a re-framing of the relationship one has with their food and by extension ourselves as so many diseases are borne from what has been a literally toxic and hostile relationship. I hope we get to see an analysis of Global COVID deaths in relation to heart disease, diabetes as well as a study of them as contributors to those deaths considered COVID related.

feralimal 6y ago
That's all a bit harsh! My gold standard is fair surely! I don't eat like that often, but I can dream! Agriculture is absolutely a boon to humanity. But that doesn't mean that I need to go along with big agra, does it? I don't agree with oil based fertilisers being used. And monocrops. It is absolutely the system we have, but its not a good one. Smaller farming, locally sourced food would be a better way to go. I am a fan of permaculture - I'm itching to try this when circumstances permit. This is a way of densely growing food.