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If you believe OP of being honest about that. Personally I don't, any time there are posts online complaining about being banned there's always some real underl
by raziel2p 6y ago
If you believe OP of being honest about that. Personally I don't, any time there are posts online complaining about being banned there's always some real underlying reason.
- novok 6y agoEither way it shouldn't matter. If someone is being an ass or cheating online, maybe that's grounds for multiplayer banning, like with valve, but not for a complete shutoff. Watching youtube videos or playing beat saber by yourself doesn't let your toxicity spread to others. Same with potential payment fraud even, just don't let them buy online anymore. It should also be up to the developers of apps. Some may not care (ex: beat saber), or someone just want an ability to ban from their app specifically for bad behavior in their app, or have cool off periods instead of perma bans or whatever else.
- raziel2p 6y agoYeah I don't disagree with you. I just find it hard to have an honest/open discussion when the starting point is a claim without proof that "I didn't do anything", because in my past experience, every time proof has surfaced in cases like these, they definitely did do something and it completely changes the perspective.
- robertlagrant 6y agoYour sample size is guaranteed to be too small to matter. You can say, "I am cynical about individual reports, and naive about Facebook, so I automatically believe the latter over the former" just as some will do the reverse. But there's no point pretending individual experience matters here.
- _iyig 6y agoAs someone else in the OP’s position (locked out of the Facebook account linked to my Quest), it is supremely frustrating to see your comment dismissing this situation out of hand.
- raziel2p 6y agoLet me clarify. I also think it's stupid and fraudulent that you should be banned from using your Oculus because your Facebook account is locked. I just find it hard to believe that Facebook accounts get locked for no reason whatsoever.
- fabian2k 6y agoWhy? I think it is very plausible that a large part of this is automated. Combine that with a real name policy and false positives sound not that unlikely. One potentially error-prone part of moderating any site with community content is handling users evading bans by creating new accounts. If you don't have any mechanism to prevent that, you have a much larger amount of offensive or troll posts, and react slower because you don't have the history of the user because you treat each account as a different person. But any mechanism trying to detect if a new user is potentially a sock puppet of a troublemaker is acting on rather few bits of information. So false positives are not that unlikely.
- fogihujy 6y agoI'm sure there are reasons. It's just that Facebook's reasons might not sound reasonable to everyone else, and it could be as simple as a login from an IP associated with fraudulent behaviour caused by someone else at the same ISP. Carrier-grade NAT is funny that way.
- bluescrn 6y agoEven if they were being a complete dick on FB, why should they be banned from VR gaming? (A ban from multiplayer modes or just voice chat would be more appropriate, perhaps?)