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I don't think this is exclusive to deadlifts either, the main physical benefit from weightlifting (strength training in particular) is that you can lift heavier

I don't think this is exclusive to deadlifts either, the main physical benefit from weightlifting (strength training in particular) is that you can lift heavier things. Yay!? Any outdoorsy activity is vastly superior to it due to exposure to fresh air and sunlight. It also tends to be less boring and monotonous than lifting heavy things for some inexplicable reason.

silly-silly 6y ago
The strength gains directly translate into mechanical advantages in other situations. > Any outdoorsy activity is vastly superior to it due to exposure to fresh air and sunlight. Citation needed. > It also tends to be less boring and monotonous than lifting heavy things for some inexplicable reason. You're approaching this with the wrong mindset. Its the minimum viable test case for improvement. Many less variables than 'outside in fresh air and sunlight'. I also think you'll find that many people do lift outside, maybe you're stereotyping based on planet fitnessesque gyms that you've frequented.
barry-cotter 6y ago
> the main physical benefit from weightlifting (strength training in particular) is that you can lift heavier things. Personally I got religion on weight lifting after reading a book on aging. Losing bone and muscle mass is inevitable with age but if you have a good base you’ve got more to lose. If you keep on weight lifting you lose it much slower. I never got serious about it. I’ve never broken 100kg for a squat and I’m perfectly ok with staying there forever. But I’m going to get weak slower than those who only do cardio and I aim to able to sit up unassisted for as long as possible, and to avoid breaking a hip too.
- lazyasciiart 6y ago
  Yes, bone loss or osteoporosis is (or should be) a big concern over 40, especially for women. Continuing weight training can reduce or even halt this loss. https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/strength-training-builds-more-than-muscles https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/strength-trai...
freeone3000 6y ago
I like weightlifting. I pick up heavy thing, I put it down. Working up a sweat is good. And it makes my head clear. You might be overcomplicating exercise. I just have fun with it.
arcturus17 6y ago
> the main physical benefit from weightlifting (strength training in particular) is that you can lift heavier things This is false and shortsighted. Here are some benefits of strength training: - Muscle mass and bone density maintenance and acquisition, which translates to better overall health. Many physical ailments in old age are related to the degradation of lean body tissues and strength training mitigates that. There is a massive change in trends where even general fitness, health-oriented programs for older trainees now incorporate a substantial resistance-training component. - Strength acquisition causes performance gains in pretty much every sport with an anaerobic component. Even sports where strength training has been historically ignored like soccer (which I follow closely) are seeing a change of trend, as it has become obvious that stronger is better, and that significant strength gains do not have to come at the expense of other athletic attributes such as agility or speed. - Strength training fixes posture and mobility issues. For untrained individuals, squatting under a light load (or even bodyweight) will likely reveal a host of problems issuing from the modern sedentary life, such as a lack of strength and mobility in key parts of the body, such as the abs or the hip flexors. Training for strength requires addressing these imbalances and helps greatly in the process too. > Any outdoorsy activity is vastly superior to it due to exposure to fresh air and sunlight This is in fact ignorant advice, and false, for the following reasons: - Few "outdoorsy" activities are close to providing the benefits listed above - You can train for strength outdoors: with your bodyweight, resistance bands, kettlebells or even a barbell setup. This is a false dichotomy that's being put forward. It is absolutely fine if you want the bulk of your physical activity to be long walks in nature, but do know that the weight of scientific and practical evidence is overwhelming: you won't be optimizing for general health unless you incorporate some degree of resistance training into your physical activity routine.
globular-toast 6y ago
It's actually been shown that strength training is more important than cardiovascular conditioning for older people. Being strong is incredibly beneficial. And you can lift heavier things. Why would that not be useful? I use my strength all the time. I also go for long walks in the countryside. You can do both things.
alexmorenodev 6y ago
Man, barbell stuff do wonders for me. I sleep better, I eat better, the pain I feel is a good feeling, like, my body is repairing for some heavy effort I made, my sexual drive is (a lot) better, my energy levels are better. Food has a purpose. My hormones are better. I feel great overall. I eat without guilty. Besides that, I'm stronger by the day. I tried to simulate these feelings with other activities (soccer, running, bike, even calisthenics). No success. Not the way that barbell stuff do to me. And I'm not even a very strong guy (101kg bench, 130kg squat, 150kg deadlift @ 73kg).

silly-silly 6y ago

The strength gains directly translate into mechanical advantages in other situations. > Any outdoorsy activity is vastly superior to it due to exposure to fresh air and sunlight. Citation needed. > It also tends to be less boring and monotonous than lifting heavy things for some inexplicable reason. You're approaching this with the wrong mindset. Its the minimum viable test case for improvement. Many less variables than 'outside in fresh air and sunlight'. I also think you'll find that many people do lift outside, maybe you're stereotyping based on planet fitnessesque gyms that you've frequented.

barry-cotter 6y ago

> the main physical benefit from weightlifting (strength training in particular) is that you can lift heavier things. Personally I got religion on weight lifting after reading a book on aging. Losing bone and muscle mass is inevitable with age but if you have a good base you’ve got more to lose. If you keep on weight lifting you lose it much slower. I never got serious about it. I’ve never broken 100kg for a squat and I’m perfectly ok with staying there forever. But I’m going to get weak slower than those who only do cardio and I aim to able to sit up unassisted for as long as possible, and to avoid breaking a hip too.

lazyasciiart 6y ago
Yes, bone loss or osteoporosis is (or should be) a big concern over 40, especially for women. Continuing weight training can reduce or even halt this loss. https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/strength-training-builds-more-than-muscles https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/strength-trai...

freeone3000 6y ago

I like weightlifting. I pick up heavy thing, I put it down. Working up a sweat is good. And it makes my head clear. You might be overcomplicating exercise. I just have fun with it.

arcturus17 6y ago

> the main physical benefit from weightlifting (strength training in particular) is that you can lift heavier things This is false and shortsighted. Here are some benefits of strength training: - Muscle mass and bone density maintenance and acquisition, which translates to better overall health. Many physical ailments in old age are related to the degradation of lean body tissues and strength training mitigates that. There is a massive change in trends where even general fitness, health-oriented programs for older trainees now incorporate a substantial resistance-training component. - Strength acquisition causes performance gains in pretty much every sport with an anaerobic component. Even sports where strength training has been historically ignored like soccer (which I follow closely) are seeing a change of trend, as it has become obvious that stronger is better, and that significant strength gains do not have to come at the expense of other athletic attributes such as agility or speed. - Strength training fixes posture and mobility issues. For untrained individuals, squatting under a light load (or even bodyweight) will likely reveal a host of problems issuing from the modern sedentary life, such as a lack of strength and mobility in key parts of the body, such as the abs or the hip flexors. Training for strength requires addressing these imbalances and helps greatly in the process too. > Any outdoorsy activity is vastly superior to it due to exposure to fresh air and sunlight This is in fact ignorant advice, and false, for the following reasons: - Few "outdoorsy" activities are close to providing the benefits listed above - You can train for strength outdoors: with your bodyweight, resistance bands, kettlebells or even a barbell setup. This is a false dichotomy that's being put forward. It is absolutely fine if you want the bulk of your physical activity to be long walks in nature, but do know that the weight of scientific and practical evidence is overwhelming: you won't be optimizing for general health unless you incorporate some degree of resistance training into your physical activity routine.

globular-toast 6y ago

It's actually been shown that strength training is more important than cardiovascular conditioning for older people. Being strong is incredibly beneficial. And you can lift heavier things. Why would that not be useful? I use my strength all the time. I also go for long walks in the countryside. You can do both things.

alexmorenodev 6y ago

Man, barbell stuff do wonders for me. I sleep better, I eat better, the pain I feel is a good feeling, like, my body is repairing for some heavy effort I made, my sexual drive is (a lot) better, my energy levels are better. Food has a purpose. My hormones are better. I feel great overall. I eat without guilty. Besides that, I'm stronger by the day. I tried to simulate these feelings with other activities (soccer, running, bike, even calisthenics). No success. Not the way that barbell stuff do to me. And I'm not even a very strong guy (101kg bench, 130kg squat, 150kg deadlift @ 73kg).