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I strongly recommend the Index - it is much more pleasant to use, much more technically impressive, and doesn't require you to deal with artificially introduced

I strongly recommend the Index - it is much more pleasant to use, much more technically impressive, and doesn't require you to deal with artificially introduced bullshit like this!

int_19h 6y ago
Any recommendation that can truly replace Quest has to offer the same experience, namely: standalone, no wires, and no complicated setup.
- samanthaj2 6y ago
  Disagree, to me that's like saying PS5 has to match an iPhone 12. No, I'd say it's the other way around. Quest has a mobile GPU so it can't deliver the top VR experiences. That it's easier to use, no wires the same way an iPhone is easier than a PS5 might be true but I can't play PS5 AAA games on an iPhone and I can't play VR AAA games on a Quest
  - Kiro 6y ago
    So you're essentially agreeing. They are two different product categories. > Any recommendation that can truly replace Quest has to offer the same experience > Disagree, to me that's like saying PS5 has to match an iPhone 12 You can't replace your iPhone with a PS5. Similar to how the Quest experience can't be replaced by the Index, and vice versa.
- SSLy 6y ago
  Samsung Galaxy S8/S9 (ideally the snapdragon ones) + Gear VR.
  - PetitPrince 6y ago
    Gear VR does not enable a 6-DOF headset. And it's still somewhat linked to Oculus / Facebook.
Cpoll 6y ago
Kind of apples and oranges, with the Index being twice as expensive, requiring a gaming PC, and being wired.
- superkuh 6y ago
  Yeah. One is a VR HMD and the other is a paperweight to get people to sign up for Facebook.
samanthaj2 6y ago
I strongly dis-recommend the Index. I got one to try to replace my Rift because of this FB account fiasco but sold it 2 days later as it was so disappointing. Horrible black levels, those horrible hovering headphones, also bad for porn since the controllers are not easy put on one handed. Now hoping the HP Reverb G2 is the thing although HP has a horrible rep for being abusive to customers as well as waiting to see.
- berberous 6y ago
  The hovering headphones are amazing. You know the Reverb 2 uses the exact same ones as the Index, right? You can dislike them, but you are very much in the minority on that.
  - SSLy 6y ago
    Audio-science time! (for a given amount of science in a field full of homeopathy): the headphones NOT touching the ears is important to preserve the feeling of sound coming from around your head (the outer ear shape is not compressed) instead of from withing your head.
- strombofulous 6y ago
  HP can be as abusive as they want as long as there's no way to remotely disable your device and you can play Steam games on it. I don't care if my HP account gets deleted.
- SSLy 6y ago
  Porn was one thing the original Oculus CV1 package did good – they've included a special pilot for multimedia.
- centimeter 6y ago
  You can use your own headphones (there’s a 3.5mm jack) and you should stop watching porn.

I strongly recommend the Index - it is much more pleasant to use, much more technically impressive, and doesn't require you to deal with artificially introduced bullshit like this!

int_19h 6y ago

Any recommendation that can truly replace Quest has to offer the same experience, namely: standalone, no wires, and no complicated setup.

samanthaj2 6y ago
Disagree, to me that's like saying PS5 has to match an iPhone 12. No, I'd say it's the other way around. Quest has a mobile GPU so it can't deliver the top VR experiences. That it's easier to use, no wires the same way an iPhone is easier than a PS5 might be true but I can't play PS5 AAA games on an iPhone and I can't play VR AAA games on a Quest
- Kiro 6y ago
  So you're essentially agreeing. They are two different product categories. > Any recommendation that can truly replace Quest has to offer the same experience > Disagree, to me that's like saying PS5 has to match an iPhone 12 You can't replace your iPhone with a PS5. Similar to how the Quest experience can't be replaced by the Index, and vice versa.
SSLy 6y ago
Samsung Galaxy S8/S9 (ideally the snapdragon ones) + Gear VR.
- PetitPrince 6y ago
  Gear VR does not enable a 6-DOF headset. And it's still somewhat linked to Oculus / Facebook.

Cpoll 6y ago

Kind of apples and oranges, with the Index being twice as expensive, requiring a gaming PC, and being wired.

superkuh 6y ago
Yeah. One is a VR HMD and the other is a paperweight to get people to sign up for Facebook.

samanthaj2 6y ago

I strongly dis-recommend the Index. I got one to try to replace my Rift because of this FB account fiasco but sold it 2 days later as it was so disappointing. Horrible black levels, those horrible hovering headphones, also bad for porn since the controllers are not easy put on one handed. Now hoping the HP Reverb G2 is the thing although HP has a horrible rep for being abusive to customers as well as waiting to see.

berberous 6y ago
The hovering headphones are amazing. You know the Reverb 2 uses the exact same ones as the Index, right? You can dislike them, but you are very much in the minority on that.
- SSLy 6y ago
  Audio-science time! (for a given amount of science in a field full of homeopathy): the headphones NOT touching the ears is important to preserve the feeling of sound coming from around your head (the outer ear shape is not compressed) instead of from withing your head.
strombofulous 6y ago
HP can be as abusive as they want as long as there's no way to remotely disable your device and you can play Steam games on it. I don't care if my HP account gets deleted.
SSLy 6y ago
Porn was one thing the original Oculus CV1 package did good – they've included a special pilot for multimedia.
centimeter 6y ago
You can use your own headphones (there’s a 3.5mm jack) and you should stop watching porn.