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I purchased an Oculus Quest 2 yesterday actually from Best Buy. As an original Vive owner I'm astounded at how far VR has gotten for the price. Getting past the

I purchased an Oculus Quest 2 yesterday actually from Best Buy. As an original Vive owner I'm astounded at how far VR has gotten for the price. Getting past the forced FB integration, the Quest is one of the best VR experiences I've had. The inside out tracking is nothing short of magical and using Virtual Desktop to stream PCVR wirelessly works so much better than I was anticipating. I'm not a FB hater, and I think the social integrations could actually be very useful in the future - especially in a post covid world.

bclemens 6y ago
> Getting past the forced FB integration There is no "getting past the forced FB integration", which is what makes it a paperweight to the author.
- DoktorDelta 6y ago
  There's supposedly a jailbreak method for it that removes the FB login requirement, but it doesn't seem to be public yet.
  - mcv 6y ago
    Facebook should enthusiastically publish that jailbreak themselves. Without it, their product is useless to a lot of people.
orev 6y ago
Useful or not, it should not be required in order for you to use a very expensive price of equipment that you already paid for.
chaostheory 6y ago
I’m also a fellow Vive Pro owner. What amazes me the most beyond the price is the convenience of a Quest. I just turn it on and play vs 1. Turning on the PC 2. Turning on my HTC base stations 3. Setting up wire control ie on the ceiling 4. Turning on the VR set Sadly, the forced Facebook login sucks for a lot of people. I also don’t see any consumer benefit from it. A complaint I’m seeing is that everyone has to manually re-friend their Facebook friends for Oculus.
piva00 6y ago
> I'm not a FB hater, and I think the social integrations If it wasn't the case that the "social integrations" are required for you to use a product, post-fact from when you bought it. Changing the rules of the game for people who spent money in a product is slimy at best, complaining about it doesn't make one a "FB hater".
zmmmmm 6y ago
Please don't characterise this as "facebook hating". There is that. But this is not that. This is people more than happy to open a Facebook account, getting banned after doing literally nothing with that account, and have no recourse at all.
- raziel2p 6y ago
  If you believe OP of being honest about that. Personally I don't, any time there are posts online complaining about being banned there's always some real underlying reason.
  - novok 6y ago
    Either way it shouldn't matter. If someone is being an ass or cheating online, maybe that's grounds for multiplayer banning, like with valve, but not for a complete shutoff. Watching youtube videos or playing beat saber by yourself doesn't let your toxicity spread to others. Same with potential payment fraud even, just don't let them buy online anymore. It should also be up to the developers of apps. Some may not care (ex: beat saber), or someone just want an ability to ban from their app specifically for bad behavior in their app, or have cool off periods instead of perma bans or whatever else.
    - raziel2p 6y ago
      Yeah I don't disagree with you. I just find it hard to have an honest/open discussion when the starting point is a claim without proof that "I didn't do anything", because in my past experience, every time proof has surfaced in cases like these, they definitely did do something and it completely changes the perspective.
      - robertlagrant 6y ago
        Your sample size is guaranteed to be too small to matter. You can say, "I am cynical about individual reports, and naive about Facebook, so I automatically believe the latter over the former" just as some will do the reverse. But there's no point pretending individual experience matters here.

bclemens 6y ago

> Getting past the forced FB integration There is no "getting past the forced FB integration", which is what makes it a paperweight to the author.

DoktorDelta 6y ago
There's supposedly a jailbreak method for it that removes the FB login requirement, but it doesn't seem to be public yet.
- mcv 6y ago
  Facebook should enthusiastically publish that jailbreak themselves. Without it, their product is useless to a lot of people.

orev 6y ago

Useful or not, it should not be required in order for you to use a very expensive price of equipment that you already paid for.

chaostheory 6y ago

I’m also a fellow Vive Pro owner. What amazes me the most beyond the price is the convenience of a Quest. I just turn it on and play vs 1. Turning on the PC 2. Turning on my HTC base stations 3. Setting up wire control ie on the ceiling 4. Turning on the VR set Sadly, the forced Facebook login sucks for a lot of people. I also don’t see any consumer benefit from it. A complaint I’m seeing is that everyone has to manually re-friend their Facebook friends for Oculus.

piva00 6y ago

> I'm not a FB hater, and I think the social integrations If it wasn't the case that the "social integrations" are required for you to use a product, post-fact from when you bought it. Changing the rules of the game for people who spent money in a product is slimy at best, complaining about it doesn't make one a "FB hater".

zmmmmm 6y ago

Please don't characterise this as "facebook hating". There is that. But this is not that. This is people more than happy to open a Facebook account, getting banned after doing literally nothing with that account, and have no recourse at all.

raziel2p 6y ago
If you believe OP of being honest about that. Personally I don't, any time there are posts online complaining about being banned there's always some real underlying reason.
- novok 6y ago
  Either way it shouldn't matter. If someone is being an ass or cheating online, maybe that's grounds for multiplayer banning, like with valve, but not for a complete shutoff. Watching youtube videos or playing beat saber by yourself doesn't let your toxicity spread to others. Same with potential payment fraud even, just don't let them buy online anymore. It should also be up to the developers of apps. Some may not care (ex: beat saber), or someone just want an ability to ban from their app specifically for bad behavior in their app, or have cool off periods instead of perma bans or whatever else.
  - raziel2p 6y ago
    Yeah I don't disagree with you. I just find it hard to have an honest/open discussion when the starting point is a claim without proof that "I didn't do anything", because in my past experience, every time proof has surfaced in cases like these, they definitely did do something and it completely changes the perspective.
    - robertlagrant 6y ago
      Your sample size is guaranteed to be too small to matter. You can say, "I am cynical about individual reports, and naive about Facebook, so I automatically believe the latter over the former" just as some will do the reverse. But there's no point pretending individual experience matters here.