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No, but if some white nationalists showed up at my door and threatened me, I'd at least have to consider it. Plenty of historical evidence for that happening in

No, but if some white nationalists showed up at my door and threatened me, I'd at least have to consider it. Plenty of historical evidence for that happening in this country. Meanwhile, my vote is completely irrelevant. There are plenty of people who didn't vote, and you only need to pay/suppress a couple thousand in AZ, NV, and GA to flip the election. History says that buying and threatening voters is effective and can move elections. Seeing as there isn't much of an upside to public votes, why would we risk it on the naïve notion that the average joe would think that far ahead when there is cash or a gun on the table?

hutzlibu 6y ago
If some white nationalist, could hold the whole nation at hostage, then shame on the nation for not being able to resist them. I mean, I believe there are professionals out there, whose job it is to make people safe. Or is the fear, that those people tend to be white nationalist, too? Well, in that case, there are other problems ... But as far as I know, many people dare to show open support of one party or the other and the newspapers are not full of people being beaten up because of it?
- arrosenberg 6y ago
  I'm not sure what your point is? There were armed Trump rallies, a Biden bus got run off the road, and the Attorney General was threatening State-sanctioned violence against his political opponents. I can't convince you not to be naïve about the world, but I'm also not going to apologize for supporting laws that reinforce Democratic norms. I have no interest in living in a dictatorship, even if a loud minority believes that is the right thing.
  - hutzlibu 6y ago
    "I can't convince you not to be naïve about the world" I think I have seen quite a bit about this world and I adress most problems direct or indirect to secrecy and lying. If you believe demcoracy needs secrecy, than this is not for me to change. I also did not say we need a open vote now. I said, "thinking" about it. If that alone makes you think I advocate dictatorship, than there is no further point discussing.

hutzlibu 6y ago

If some white nationalist, could hold the whole nation at hostage, then shame on the nation for not being able to resist them. I mean, I believe there are professionals out there, whose job it is to make people safe. Or is the fear, that those people tend to be white nationalist, too? Well, in that case, there are other problems ... But as far as I know, many people dare to show open support of one party or the other and the newspapers are not full of people being beaten up because of it?

arrosenberg 6y ago
I'm not sure what your point is? There were armed Trump rallies, a Biden bus got run off the road, and the Attorney General was threatening State-sanctioned violence against his political opponents. I can't convince you not to be naïve about the world, but I'm also not going to apologize for supporting laws that reinforce Democratic norms. I have no interest in living in a dictatorship, even if a loud minority believes that is the right thing.
- hutzlibu 6y ago
  "I can't convince you not to be naïve about the world" I think I have seen quite a bit about this world and I adress most problems direct or indirect to secrecy and lying. If you believe demcoracy needs secrecy, than this is not for me to change. I also did not say we need a open vote now. I said, "thinking" about it. If that alone makes you think I advocate dictatorship, than there is no further point discussing.