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I mean you could say the same thing about VW (surely a major car manufacturer) 3 years back but ID 3 is being mass produced now and has a clear backing from VW

I mean you could say the same thing about VW (surely a major car manufacturer) 3 years back but ID 3 is being mass produced now and has a clear backing from VW (eg. I see it advertised a decent amount). ID 4 is coming, VW group members will all offer EVs based on the same platform in following years. Electric cars are becoming a reality, charging networks are getting built, and most of the things I see around here is not Tesla. I bought a new car recently so I won't be in the market for a new one for at least 3-4 years but I fully expect my next car to be electric and I doubt it will be a Tesla (I have my eye on Jaguar ipace but who knows by then).

grecy 6y ago
> ID 3 is being mass produced now I just did a TON of searching, and while every outlet wrote about it in late 2019 and early 2020, and about how production was going to be x units/week by summer 2020, I can't find a single report written in the last ~3 months giving an update on how production of the ID.3 are going. Can you find a source for how many they're actually building per day right now?
- reader_mode 6y ago
  Can't find production numbers but they recently made a statement that they have 40k orders which seems like less than they anticipated (blaming it on software issues) and expect the line to fill the emissions gap in their fleet [1] and deliveries have started. I should maybe rephrase my statement to say ID line is ramping up to mass production - I don't know what's their status but I've noticed them pushing ID.3 seriously around here (unlike say e-golf which was a half-assed "we have an electric car" thing) and they committed to a bunch of full electrics across the group (Škoda, Seat, Audi). [1] https://todaynewspost.com/auto-news/vw-braces-for-eu-fine-for-missing-co2-emissions-reduction-target/ https://todaynewspost.com/auto-news/vw-braces-for-eu-fine-fo...
  - grecy 6y ago
    Thanks. So like so many all-electric vehicles, the ID.3 is still not in mass production.
    - reader_mode 6y ago
      I think the difference is that ID.3 platform plans feel much more concrete than other manufacturers half hearted attempts, but I could be wrong, we will see next year.
      - Gibbon1 6y ago
        I keep seeing references to work VW is doing to produce the ID.3 and ID.4 at scale. Articles like this one. That talks about them adding a second factory to produce it in Germany and building a factory for the ID.4 in Tennessee. That's more than marketing/PR blather. https://electrek.co/2019/11/19/vw-production-id3-electric-car-factory-germany/ https://electrek.co/2019/11/19/vw-production-id3-electric-ca... A point too is this isn't like some startup saying they are going to do something they haven't done before. VW builds automobiles at scale.
- Gibbon1 6y ago
  Couple of minutes of looking I found production was delayed till Sept 2020. Looks like they shipped about 2700 units in October. https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/jq8u0c/ev_sales_october_germany_2020/ https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/jq8u0c/ev...
toast0 6y ago
VW is electrifying as a settlement condition, it's not a major car maker with free will.
bydo 6y ago
Note also that Bentley is part of VW.

grecy 6y ago

> ID 3 is being mass produced now I just did a TON of searching, and while every outlet wrote about it in late 2019 and early 2020, and about how production was going to be x units/week by summer 2020, I can't find a single report written in the last ~3 months giving an update on how production of the ID.3 are going. Can you find a source for how many they're actually building per day right now?

reader_mode 6y ago
Can't find production numbers but they recently made a statement that they have 40k orders which seems like less than they anticipated (blaming it on software issues) and expect the line to fill the emissions gap in their fleet [1] and deliveries have started. I should maybe rephrase my statement to say ID line is ramping up to mass production - I don't know what's their status but I've noticed them pushing ID.3 seriously around here (unlike say e-golf which was a half-assed "we have an electric car" thing) and they committed to a bunch of full electrics across the group (Škoda, Seat, Audi). [1] https://todaynewspost.com/auto-news/vw-braces-for-eu-fine-for-missing-co2-emissions-reduction-target/ https://todaynewspost.com/auto-news/vw-braces-for-eu-fine-fo...
- grecy 6y ago
  Thanks. So like so many all-electric vehicles, the ID.3 is still not in mass production.
  - reader_mode 6y ago
    I think the difference is that ID.3 platform plans feel much more concrete than other manufacturers half hearted attempts, but I could be wrong, we will see next year.
    - Gibbon1 6y ago
      I keep seeing references to work VW is doing to produce the ID.3 and ID.4 at scale. Articles like this one. That talks about them adding a second factory to produce it in Germany and building a factory for the ID.4 in Tennessee. That's more than marketing/PR blather. https://electrek.co/2019/11/19/vw-production-id3-electric-car-factory-germany/ https://electrek.co/2019/11/19/vw-production-id3-electric-ca... A point too is this isn't like some startup saying they are going to do something they haven't done before. VW builds automobiles at scale.
Gibbon1 6y ago
Couple of minutes of looking I found production was delayed till Sept 2020. Looks like they shipped about 2700 units in October. https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/jq8u0c/ev_sales_october_germany_2020/ https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/jq8u0c/ev...

toast0 6y ago

VW is electrifying as a settlement condition, it's not a major car maker with free will.

bydo 6y ago

Note also that Bentley is part of VW.