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JupyterCon 2020: Code of Conduct Reports

28 points by tmabraham 6y ago

PragmaticPulp 6y ago
This is a resolution of the strange accusations against a presenter who simply disagreed with someone else in his presentation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24926214 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24926214 Note that the person he disagreed with was not even one of the accusers. It’s strange that it took 10 days and significant public controversy for them to decide that his talk didn’t violate the code of conduct. The presenter posted his material online (smart move) and no reasonable person would believe it was something worth investigating, let alone that it had ill intent. It’s also strange that they’ve apparently backdated this blog post clearing the presenter. The text clearing him of wrongdoing was posted today, November 8th (Source: https://twitter.com/jeremyphoward/status/1325606466556895232?s=21 https://twitter.com/jeremyphoward/status/1325606466556895232... ), but the time stamp in the post shows November 3rd for me. Perhaps they’re trying, again, to rewrite history to make their response to this situation look less bad.
- wodenokoto 6y ago
  > again What are you referring to?
tata4 6y ago
But it does feel like making fun of IMHO.
ramblerman 6y ago
Happy to see they decided in his favour. Jeremy has done tremendous work to make AI accessible for everyone. The idea that even disagreement is now taboo and every single complaint needs to be taken seriously because ... feelings.
lbj 6y ago
Nothing says I’m sorry like a short written apology followed by a donate button
finnthehuman 6y ago
In the name of creating a warm welcoming community, they ejected someone for something so minor that most people aren't even convinced rises to the level of social faux pas. And only after it's made public how they barred and privately harassed the "perpetrator" does NumFocus take two tiny steps to roll back their own actions as damage control. I think it's time we dispensed with the idea the presence of a code of conduct has any correlation to the quality of a community. Even if NumFocus were to fire everybody on their code of conduct committee and perform a public postmortem on how their processes fucked up so hard, the Code of Conduct will still have contributed a net negative to their community.
specialist 6y ago
It just now occurs to me that every org w/ a code of conduct should have regular status reports. That's what I thought this would be. I was secretary for a political org. We recently backfilled a code of conduct in response to behavior that was not addressed by our bylaws. It was a brutal, necessary adaptation. Our membership meetings already has regular status reports from chair, secretary (minutes, errata), membership, treasurer, etc. I will now propose that we add a regular code of conduct status report. Probably yearly. Figure out some meaningful metrics, like number of complaints received, response times, resolutions.

28 points by tmabraham 6y ago

This is a resolution of the strange accusations against a presenter who simply disagreed with someone else in his presentation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24926214 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24926214 Note that the person he disagreed with was not even one of the accusers. It’s strange that it took 10 days and significant public controversy for them to decide that his talk didn’t violate the code of conduct. The presenter posted his material online (smart move) and no reasonable person would believe it was something worth investigating, let alone that it had ill intent. It’s also strange that they’ve apparently backdated this blog post clearing the presenter. The text clearing him of wrongdoing was posted today, November 8th (Source: https://twitter.com/jeremyphoward/status/1325606466556895232?s=21 https://twitter.com/jeremyphoward/status/1325606466556895232... ), but the time stamp in the post shows November 3rd for me. Perhaps they’re trying, again, to rewrite history to make their response to this situation look less bad.

wodenokoto 6y ago
> again What are you referring to?

tata4 6y ago

But it does feel like making fun of IMHO.

ramblerman 6y ago

Happy to see they decided in his favour. Jeremy has done tremendous work to make AI accessible for everyone. The idea that even disagreement is now taboo and every single complaint needs to be taken seriously because ... feelings.

lbj 6y ago

Nothing says I’m sorry like a short written apology followed by a donate button

finnthehuman 6y ago

In the name of creating a warm welcoming community, they ejected someone for something so minor that most people aren't even convinced rises to the level of social faux pas. And only after it's made public how they barred and privately harassed the "perpetrator" does NumFocus take two tiny steps to roll back their own actions as damage control. I think it's time we dispensed with the idea the presence of a code of conduct has any correlation to the quality of a community. Even if NumFocus were to fire everybody on their code of conduct committee and perform a public postmortem on how their processes fucked up so hard, the Code of Conduct will still have contributed a net negative to their community.

specialist 6y ago

It just now occurs to me that every org w/ a code of conduct should have regular status reports. That's what I thought this would be. I was secretary for a political org. We recently backfilled a code of conduct in response to behavior that was not addressed by our bylaws. It was a brutal, necessary adaptation. Our membership meetings already has regular status reports from chair, secretary (minutes, errata), membership, treasurer, etc. I will now propose that we add a regular code of conduct status report. Probably yearly. Figure out some meaningful metrics, like number of complaints received, response times, resolutions.