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Many websites will stop working on older Android versions in 2021

10 points by 1cvmask 6y ago

cutler 6y ago
So much for the free internet. And to think all it took was some SSL cert company to waltz in and assert itself as God almighty. With a bit of help from Google perhaps. And we allowed it to happen. In fact a lot here on HN encouraged it.
eznzt 6y ago
>The only workaround for legacy Android devices is to install the Firefox browser You can still install the root certificate "ISRG Root X1" by hand, no?
rossy 6y ago
This is bad news. I think a lot of businesses are suspicious of LE and itching for valid reasons to keep the status quo of paying for certs, and well... here's one. I've been pushing internally for my business to use LE certs, but maybe I'll stop, since we still have users on Android 5.1.1-7.0. I wonder if this is something Google could fix in Chrome without needing an OS update. They are apparently a major LE sponsor.
ksec 6y ago
>General availability August 22, 2016; 4 years ago [1] >As of September 2020, 8.85% of Android devices run Nougat (no longer receiving security updates), with 5.17% on Android 7.0 (API 24) and 3.68% using Android 7.1 (API 25).[1] I had to look it up since I am not well versed on specific Android version. This is quite bad. ~10% of Android, or approximately ~300M. Edit: Actually it is even worst since it is Android 7.1 Or below [2], that is 7.1 + 7.0 + 6.0+ 5.1 + 4.4, a total 21% of Android devices. or 600M. These numbers exclude China so actual number would be even higher. Although by 2021 those devices would have been 4 - 5 years old at least and need a replacement. It still saddens me how the Internet, and just simple web pages have now turned into a whole HTTPS, lots of complexity and encryption by default. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Nougat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Nougat [2] https://gs.statcounter.com/android-version-market-share/mobile-tablet/worldwide/ https://gs.statcounter.com/android-version-market-share/mobi...
0x073 6y ago
Maybe not if chrome devs are fast enough. (Chrome will soon have its own dedicated certificate root store) https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-will-soon-have-its-own-dedicated-certificate-root-store/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-will-soon-have-its-own-...

10 points by 1cvmask 6y ago

So much for the free internet. And to think all it took was some SSL cert company to waltz in and assert itself as God almighty. With a bit of help from Google perhaps. And we allowed it to happen. In fact a lot here on HN encouraged it.

eznzt 6y ago

>The only workaround for legacy Android devices is to install the Firefox browser You can still install the root certificate "ISRG Root X1" by hand, no?

rossy 6y ago

This is bad news. I think a lot of businesses are suspicious of LE and itching for valid reasons to keep the status quo of paying for certs, and well... here's one. I've been pushing internally for my business to use LE certs, but maybe I'll stop, since we still have users on Android 5.1.1-7.0. I wonder if this is something Google could fix in Chrome without needing an OS update. They are apparently a major LE sponsor.

ksec 6y ago

>General availability August 22, 2016; 4 years ago [1] >As of September 2020, 8.85% of Android devices run Nougat (no longer receiving security updates), with 5.17% on Android 7.0 (API 24) and 3.68% using Android 7.1 (API 25).[1] I had to look it up since I am not well versed on specific Android version. This is quite bad. ~10% of Android, or approximately ~300M. Edit: Actually it is even worst since it is Android 7.1 Or below [2], that is 7.1 + 7.0 + 6.0+ 5.1 + 4.4, a total 21% of Android devices. or 600M. These numbers exclude China so actual number would be even higher. Although by 2021 those devices would have been 4 - 5 years old at least and need a replacement. It still saddens me how the Internet, and just simple web pages have now turned into a whole HTTPS, lots of complexity and encryption by default. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Nougat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Nougat [2] https://gs.statcounter.com/android-version-market-share/mobile-tablet/worldwide/ https://gs.statcounter.com/android-version-market-share/mobi...

0x073 6y ago

Maybe not if chrome devs are fast enough. (Chrome will soon have its own dedicated certificate root store) https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-will-soon-have-its-own-dedicated-certificate-root-store/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-will-soon-have-its-own-...