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It's incredible the lengths people will go to to 'hack' the system. It's almost as if we could be living in near paradise if we switch-a-roo-ed existing people

It's incredible the lengths people will go to to 'hack' the system. It's almost as if we could be living in near paradise if we switch-a-roo-ed existing people in power for the robin hoods who do this kind of thankless work. It makes me think of the people who rip movies and post them online, at the risk of getting caught and suffering who knows what sorts of consequences. What motivates this entire underground network of people who do this? I feel like this should be studied or something - it strikes me as a separate set of morals that these people hold that aren't spelled out anywhere (or are they?) and no matter the number of times the powers that be try to squash them, they seem to pop right back up in one form or another. A leaderless resistance to power hungry assholes or something, so cool :)

vaccinator 6y ago
when you are part of the scene, you get access to basically all content... some people probably do it for that reason.
Marciplan 6y ago
Riley makes €11K a month via Patreon because of AltStore :) (And deserves double that, of course.)
- brailsafe 6y ago
  That is a hell of a lot of money. Has AltStore been around that long or did that come from his work on the emulators?
- saurik 6y ago
  (FWIW, the person--me--who actually developed and maintained all of the open source application signing code that AltStore continues to use was making negative thousands of dollars a month from just hosting AltStore's predecessor, due to... and this is clearly on me... having no revenue model from it, and so had to largely stop working on it and get a "day job" outside of the jailbreak ecosystem. I'm really am OK with Riley making money for the AltServer and Mail.app hacks, but $13k/mo feels somewhat extreme? edit: OK, someone else in a sibling comment to this one noted that he also has emulators as a big part of his Patreon. I'm much happier mentally modelling that the vast majority of the people giving him money are interested in those ;P.)
  - srtjstjsj 6y ago
    How did you manage to spend thousands of dollars a month on hosting? That's free on GitHub and many other places. But it's certainly true that money in OSS is in marketing, not the software.
  - strogonoff 6y ago
    Sounds like you/your projects should at least be mentioned over at https://github.com/rileytestut/AltStore https://github.com/rileytestut/AltStore, I’ve seen READMEs give credit for much less.

vaccinator 6y ago

when you are part of the scene, you get access to basically all content... some people probably do it for that reason.

Marciplan 6y ago

Riley makes €11K a month via Patreon because of AltStore :) (And deserves double that, of course.)

brailsafe 6y ago
That is a hell of a lot of money. Has AltStore been around that long or did that come from his work on the emulators?
saurik 6y ago
(FWIW, the person--me--who actually developed and maintained all of the open source application signing code that AltStore continues to use was making negative thousands of dollars a month from just hosting AltStore's predecessor, due to... and this is clearly on me... having no revenue model from it, and so had to largely stop working on it and get a "day job" outside of the jailbreak ecosystem. I'm really am OK with Riley making money for the AltServer and Mail.app hacks, but $13k/mo feels somewhat extreme? edit: OK, someone else in a sibling comment to this one noted that he also has emulators as a big part of his Patreon. I'm much happier mentally modelling that the vast majority of the people giving him money are interested in those ;P.)
- srtjstjsj 6y ago
  How did you manage to spend thousands of dollars a month on hosting? That's free on GitHub and many other places. But it's certainly true that money in OSS is in marketing, not the software.
- strogonoff 6y ago
  Sounds like you/your projects should at least be mentioned over at https://github.com/rileytestut/AltStore https://github.com/rileytestut/AltStore, I’ve seen READMEs give credit for much less.