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The German article is more on point and it goes into more details about the background and also the probable solution with "Exceptional Access" architecture. T

The German article is more on point and it goes into more details about the background and also the probable solution with "Exceptional Access" architecture. The official EU draft documents always use a very careful language to not create too much suspicion. Only one or two sentences actually tell the truth: "Possible solutions may need the support of service providers in a transparent and lawful manner, as well as improving the technical and tactical skills which the law enforcement and judicial authorities need to face the challenges of digitisation at a global scale." I hope some English articles will appear soon. Exceptional Access document: https://www.politico.eu/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/SKM_C45820090717470-1_new.pdf https://www.politico.eu/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/SKM_C4582... Rev. 1 of the original document, dated November 6: https://files.orf.at/vietnam2/files/fm4/202045/783284_fh_st12143-re01en20_783284.pdf https://files.orf.at/vietnam2/files/fm4/202045/783284_fh_st1...

dang 6y ago
I'm certainly open to changing the URL from what is probably an obscurantist press release to a more accurate and neutral source. But it would need to be in English. Sorry—I realize that's frustrating to anyone who reads both languages, but most HN readers can't. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=corporate%20press%20release%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
- hammock 6y ago
  You're conflating the language issue with the alleged "obscurantist" issue. In your opinion, since you brought it up, what facts are the original link lying about or hiding?
  - thotsBgone 6y ago
    You misunderstood. They said the current link is possibly obscurantist, not the German one.
    - hammock 6y ago
      Got it, thanks for the clarification. Too late to edit
- Daniel_sk 6y ago
  Please maybe link the revised article from November 6. You can see the changes made in bold: https://files.orf.at/vietnam2/files/fm4/202045/783284_fh_st12143-re01en20_783284.pdf https://files.orf.at/vietnam2/files/fm4/202045/783284_fh_st1... I can't find it from public sources, the REV 1 is referenced here: https://www.parlament.gv.at/PAKT/EU/XXVII/EU/03/62/EU_36280/index.shtml#I_38407 https://www.parlament.gv.at/PAKT/EU/XXVII/EU/03/62/EU_36280/... But it's marked as not public.
  - Daniel_sk 6y ago
    Update: I got an indirect confirmation that the REV1 version of the document should be authentic and they also noted that radiofm4 (ORF) has a good record of previous disclosures.
- vimy 6y ago
  I don’t see how that’s a problem when Chrome has translation built- in and the other browsers have plugins.
- blub 6y ago
  Wasn't this originally on orf.at? That is the web site of the national Austrian news network: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORF_(broadcaster) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORF_(broadcaster)
  - dang 6y ago
    There may be some confusion. The original link wasn't in English. The current one is a press release or similar. What would be best is an article that is both in English and not a press release.

dang 6y ago

I'm certainly open to changing the URL from what is probably an obscurantist press release to a more accurate and neutral source. But it would need to be in English. Sorry—I realize that's frustrating to anyone who reads both languages, but most HN readers can't. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=corporate%20press%20release%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

hammock 6y ago
You're conflating the language issue with the alleged "obscurantist" issue. In your opinion, since you brought it up, what facts are the original link lying about or hiding?
- thotsBgone 6y ago
  You misunderstood. They said the current link is possibly obscurantist, not the German one.
  - hammock 6y ago
    Got it, thanks for the clarification. Too late to edit
Daniel_sk 6y ago
Please maybe link the revised article from November 6. You can see the changes made in bold: https://files.orf.at/vietnam2/files/fm4/202045/783284_fh_st12143-re01en20_783284.pdf https://files.orf.at/vietnam2/files/fm4/202045/783284_fh_st1... I can't find it from public sources, the REV 1 is referenced here: https://www.parlament.gv.at/PAKT/EU/XXVII/EU/03/62/EU_36280/index.shtml#I_38407 https://www.parlament.gv.at/PAKT/EU/XXVII/EU/03/62/EU_36280/... But it's marked as not public.
- Daniel_sk 6y ago
  Update: I got an indirect confirmation that the REV1 version of the document should be authentic and they also noted that radiofm4 (ORF) has a good record of previous disclosures.
vimy 6y ago
I don’t see how that’s a problem when Chrome has translation built- in and the other browsers have plugins.
blub 6y ago
Wasn't this originally on orf.at? That is the web site of the national Austrian news network: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORF_(broadcaster) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORF_(broadcaster)
- dang 6y ago
  There may be some confusion. The original link wasn't in English. The current one is a press release or similar. What would be best is an article that is both in English and not a press release.