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The only downside here is that you have to have a Mac (or some hackintosh, I guess) to do this. Anyone have any idea on the state of the art for running an OSX

The only downside here is that you have to have a Mac (or some hackintosh, I guess) to do this. Anyone have any idea on the state of the art for running an OSX virtual machine?

phoe-krk 6y ago
https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox Pretty bulletproof and automated.
- Shank 6y ago
  This script seems to include the magic encryption string[0]. I'm surprised that it hasn't been DMCA'd yet. [0]: https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox/blob/master/macos-guest-virtualbox.sh#L670 https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox/blob/master/...
  - phoe-krk 6y ago
    The magic "ourhardworkbythesewordsguardedpleasedontsteal(c)AppleComputerInc" haiku-string is already kind of a meme by now. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9589961 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9589961
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      Another cute poem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8579272 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8579272
  - josephcsible 6y ago
    Are they going to DMCA a federal judge's order too? https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/imported/20120105_202426_apple_sealing.pdf https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/imported/20120105_20...
- Tepix 6y ago
  Thanks. The page mentions transfering the image to QEMU + KVM with hardware passthrough for good performance. Is there a script or guide on how to set that up?
  - phoe-krk 6y ago
    I have no idea how to do that and I have never attempted this myself.
saurik 6y ago
AltStore also supports Windows AFAIK. https://altstore.io/ https://altstore.io/
- kevincox 6y ago
  If it works on windows why does it need the server at all? If it is just making requests to Apple can't you do the signing on the phone? (Other than the bootstrap procedure)
  - saurik 6y ago
    You can do the signing on the phone (though there is some nuance here as logging in to the account is hard and the techniques used by AltStore involve injection into other Apple software; this is at least theoretically fixable, but does mean that it wouldn't be trivial), but you can't do the installation from another app on the phone in any obvious way (at least without restricted entitlements). AltStore is acting like Xcode doing over-the-network installs from AltServer (and then also happens to do the signing there, but that's again simply to make it easier to develop it). AltStore is based on the signing code I developed and also used in my Cydia Impactor (which lets you install apps over USB); I actually did develop another tool called Cydia Extender, which would run on your phone, but I dropped the effort when I couldn't get stuff to install on the phone (the technique I came up with relied on an entitlement that was only able to be installed by users with developer accounts; I even somehow failed to notice this until after I released it, which was awkward: I still can't believe I messed up my testing that badly). (Actually... maybe I have a way to pull this off now? It is a long shot, and somewhat risky ;P.)
    - mikeknoop 6y ago
      Could you use a VPN on the device to make a remote server appear as a local server for network installs? If so, could you loop back an on device “server” through a remote proxy?
      - saurik 6y ago
djxfade 6y ago
No, AltStore has a server for Windows as well
runjake 6y ago
You don’t need a Mac. It works on Windows too.
srtjstjsj 6y ago
There's a beta windows version.

The only downside here is that you have to have a Mac (or some hackintosh, I guess) to do this. Anyone have any idea on the state of the art for running an OSX virtual machine?

phoe-krk 6y ago

https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox Pretty bulletproof and automated.

Shank 6y ago
This script seems to include the magic encryption string[0]. I'm surprised that it hasn't been DMCA'd yet. [0]: https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox/blob/master/macos-guest-virtualbox.sh#L670 https://github.com/myspaghetti/macos-virtualbox/blob/master/...
- phoe-krk 6y ago
  The magic "ourhardworkbythesewordsguardedpleasedontsteal(c)AppleComputerInc" haiku-string is already kind of a meme by now. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9589961 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9589961
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Another cute poem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8579272 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8579272
- josephcsible 6y ago
  Are they going to DMCA a federal judge's order too? https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/imported/20120105_202426_apple_sealing.pdf https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/imported/20120105_20...
Tepix 6y ago
Thanks. The page mentions transfering the image to QEMU + KVM with hardware passthrough for good performance. Is there a script or guide on how to set that up?
- phoe-krk 6y ago
  I have no idea how to do that and I have never attempted this myself.

saurik 6y ago

AltStore also supports Windows AFAIK. https://altstore.io/ https://altstore.io/

kevincox 6y ago
If it works on windows why does it need the server at all? If it is just making requests to Apple can't you do the signing on the phone? (Other than the bootstrap procedure)
- saurik 6y ago
  You can do the signing on the phone (though there is some nuance here as logging in to the account is hard and the techniques used by AltStore involve injection into other Apple software; this is at least theoretically fixable, but does mean that it wouldn't be trivial), but you can't do the installation from another app on the phone in any obvious way (at least without restricted entitlements). AltStore is acting like Xcode doing over-the-network installs from AltServer (and then also happens to do the signing there, but that's again simply to make it easier to develop it). AltStore is based on the signing code I developed and also used in my Cydia Impactor (which lets you install apps over USB); I actually did develop another tool called Cydia Extender, which would run on your phone, but I dropped the effort when I couldn't get stuff to install on the phone (the technique I came up with relied on an entitlement that was only able to be installed by users with developer accounts; I even somehow failed to notice this until after I released it, which was awkward: I still can't believe I messed up my testing that badly). (Actually... maybe I have a way to pull this off now? It is a long shot, and somewhat risky ;P.)
  - mikeknoop 6y ago
    Could you use a VPN on the device to make a remote server appear as a local server for network installs? If so, could you loop back an on device “server” through a remote proxy?
    - saurik 6y ago

djxfade 6y ago

No, AltStore has a server for Windows as well

runjake 6y ago

You don’t need a Mac. It works on Windows too.

srtjstjsj 6y ago

There's a beta windows version.