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> We shouldn't do business with a country that steals, doesn't play fair, is the embodiment of 1984, and above all, commits genocide. I do not understand how y

> We shouldn't do business with a country that steals, doesn't play fair, is the embodiment of 1984, and above all, commits genocide. I do not understand how you can say this about China? [1] > I think the future posed by Communist China is nightmare fuel and has the potential to eclipse the future we are trying to build Seriously? [2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3LFbOSPfrE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3LFbOSPfrE

thotsBgone 6y ago
The US does not have concentration camps full of religious minorities. The US media is only lightly censored, as opposed to the fully censored Chinese media. The US has not implemented a social credit system to turn its own population into a secret police. The US doesn't cover up global pandemics and then "disappear" anyone who talks about the cover up. The US is not the worlds biggest jailer of journalists. The US is not a one-party system which has outlawed protests etc. The US does not execute mass-scale non-consensual organ-harvesting of religious minorities to fuel their organ tourism industry. You should be thankful that speaking against the US government won't get you kidnapped and tortured like it would in China. If this was China, your very comment could lead to your death.
- vkou 6y ago
  > The US has not implemented a social credit system to turn its own population into a secret police. The US does seem to have a large misunderstanding of what the social credit system is, and the ways it differs, and does not differ from the regular credit system.
  - thotsBgone 6y ago
    In what ways is the social credit system not a "tool for comprehensive government surveillance and for suppression of dissent from the Communist Party of China", as Wikipedia puts it?
bergstromm466 6y ago
What I tried to say is that the framing by OP is hypocritical fear-mongering which benefits US & Eurocentric Imperialism. Of course I do not endorse China's human rights violations.

thotsBgone 6y ago

The US does not have concentration camps full of religious minorities. The US media is only lightly censored, as opposed to the fully censored Chinese media. The US has not implemented a social credit system to turn its own population into a secret police. The US doesn't cover up global pandemics and then "disappear" anyone who talks about the cover up. The US is not the worlds biggest jailer of journalists. The US is not a one-party system which has outlawed protests etc. The US does not execute mass-scale non-consensual organ-harvesting of religious minorities to fuel their organ tourism industry. You should be thankful that speaking against the US government won't get you kidnapped and tortured like it would in China. If this was China, your very comment could lead to your death.

vkou 6y ago
> The US has not implemented a social credit system to turn its own population into a secret police. The US does seem to have a large misunderstanding of what the social credit system is, and the ways it differs, and does not differ from the regular credit system.
- thotsBgone 6y ago
  In what ways is the social credit system not a "tool for comprehensive government surveillance and for suppression of dissent from the Communist Party of China", as Wikipedia puts it?

bergstromm466 6y ago

What I tried to say is that the framing by OP is hypocritical fear-mongering which benefits US & Eurocentric Imperialism. Of course I do not endorse China's human rights violations.