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What was the last time ESR did something of relevance? NTPSec is... questionably relevant. We shouldn't be surprised at his statements here: this is the same p

What was the last time ESR did something of relevance? NTPSec is... questionably relevant. We shouldn't be surprised at his statements here: this is the same person who said that gays got AIDS because they were promiscuous[1] and that police should be suspicious of black people (in a certain age range)[2]. We are better off. [1]: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=26 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=26 [2]: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7239 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7239

TheNorthman 6y ago
[1] is an absolute banger. He continues by saying that homosexual `promiscuity' is worse than the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). > It may turn out that the consequences of sympathizing with NAMBLA are almost equally ugly. If a climate of `enlightened’ tolerance for consensual pederasty and pedophilia tends to increase the rate at which boys are abused, that is a very serious consequence for which gay liberationists will not (and should not) soon be forgiven.
konjin 6y ago
And how else did homosexuals get aids? Sharing needles, getting blood transfusions or being Puerto Rican?
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SamReidHughes 6y ago
AIDS is an STD. So that’s a good explanation.
- TheNorthman 6y ago
  It really isn't [0]. [0]: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17855487/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17855487/ > The persistence of disparities in HIV between heterosexual individuals and [homosexual individuals] in the United States cannot be explained solely by differences in risky sexual behavior between these two populations.
  - SamReidHughes 6y ago
    Some paper ran a model, and you think a model debunks reality? Guess what: In reality, reality debunks the model.
torstenvl 6y ago
Hi. I belong to one of those minority populations. I don't see anything wrong with those posts, and certainly nothing worth banning a key member of the open source community over.
- hlieberman 6y ago
  So do I. He's certainly not a key member of the open source community these days, and being banned from mailing lists is not exactly excluding him from open source movement. (Though I'd certainly not feel the loss if we did; see above re: key status).

TheNorthman 6y ago

[1] is an absolute banger. He continues by saying that homosexual `promiscuity' is worse than the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). > It may turn out that the consequences of sympathizing with NAMBLA are almost equally ugly. If a climate of `enlightened’ tolerance for consensual pederasty and pedophilia tends to increase the rate at which boys are abused, that is a very serious consequence for which gay liberationists will not (and should not) soon be forgiven.

konjin 6y ago

And how else did homosexuals get aids? Sharing needles, getting blood transfusions or being Puerto Rican?

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SamReidHughes 6y ago

AIDS is an STD. So that’s a good explanation.

TheNorthman 6y ago
It really isn't [0]. [0]: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17855487/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17855487/ > The persistence of disparities in HIV between heterosexual individuals and [homosexual individuals] in the United States cannot be explained solely by differences in risky sexual behavior between these two populations.
- SamReidHughes 6y ago
  Some paper ran a model, and you think a model debunks reality? Guess what: In reality, reality debunks the model.

torstenvl 6y ago

Hi. I belong to one of those minority populations. I don't see anything wrong with those posts, and certainly nothing worth banning a key member of the open source community over.

hlieberman 6y ago
So do I. He's certainly not a key member of the open source community these days, and being banned from mailing lists is not exactly excluding him from open source movement. (Though I'd certainly not feel the loss if we did; see above re: key status).