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What are the problems with earlier stage screening? Without knowing much about pancreatic cancer screening in particular, it sounds like it might be one of thos
by dmurray 6y ago
What are the problems with earlier stage screening? Without knowing much about pancreatic cancer screening in particular, it sounds like it might be one of those screenings that aren't recommended "because of the risk of false positives", which is a failure of the medical system rather than a deficiency in the medical technology.
Some cancer screenings aren't recommended below whatever age because if you have a false positive test, it may lead to worse outcomes due to anxiety, low trust in future tests, or large costs and risks from additional more invasive tests the doctors feel they have to recommend [0]. The medium term solution should be better education and cleverer processes for recommending the invasive tests - if the false positive risk is high, maybe just make sure they get screened again every year - but instead it's just to stop the screening. Pick your own narrative about whether the root cause here is poor application of medical ethics, fear of malpractice cases, or the principal/agent problem in health insurance.
Having less information should never be advantageous. And if the benefits are marginal, doing millions of screens "for real" incentivizes improving the process far more then when it's just a research problem.
Is early diagnosis of pancreatic cancer something like this that needs to be fixed in the "system" or just something we don't have the technology to do?
[0] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041220002224.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041220002224.h... - I'm sure there are better resources but just one paper about how early screening can be "bad" even if it's free.
- selectodude 6y ago> What are the problems with earlier stage screening? It's not false positives that are the issue. It's the huge number of false negatives. The standard biomarker we look for is only present in 70 percent of people with the cancer. Furthermore, only 5 percent of the people who present with CA 19-9 even have pancreatic cancer to begin with since it also presents with almost any other gut issue. >which is a failure of the medical system rather than a deficiency in the medical technology. The technology that we have to actually find pancreatic cancer is an endoscopy which is going to find a whole lot of stuff. 5 percent of the issues present on your pancreas are pancreatic cancer. >Is early diagnosis of pancreatic cancer something like this that needs to be fixed in the "system" or just something we don't have the technology to do? We simply don't have the technology. Below is a link with a bunch of statistics showing just how devilishly hard pancreatic cancer is to find before metastasis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113008/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113008/