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Apple: the iPad Pro is a computer Also Apple: how dare you make a sandboxed shell environment for it

raverbashing 6y ago
"what's a computer" And I might add. Until you are able to develop an iPad app in itself, it is not replacing "a real one"
- bigbubba 6y ago
  A computer without software is no longer a computer?
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    As a legal distinction I think it's not unreasonable, i.e. a TV these days is just a big ipad it it's not considered a personal computer.
    - bigbubba 6y ago
      If a TV isn't plugged into anything, I suppose it's no longer a TV.
    - Valkhyr 6y ago
      The big difference is that you generally see more people who would find it useful to run arbitrary software on their phone than on their TV or smart fridge, especially considering that recent phones have single core performance approaching (or exceeding older) laptops. There are plenty of people in this world for whom their smartphone is their primary or only computer (by necessity or choice), and it sucks that they cannot actually take full control of their computer. (For what it's worth, I also think that if you are in the minority who want to run custom software on your TV, the manufacturer should absolutely not be able to prevent you from doing so, because it's your TV - void your warranty while you are using unsupported software? Maybe. Prevent install outright? Hell no.)
- admax88q 6y ago
  > "what's a computer" Also Apple: "There's an app for that"
- whywhywhywhy 6y ago
  Think that's just over the horizon, which should be a positive but really it just completes the circle that iOS is all Apple needs and MacOS is the legacy system that will eventually be deprecated.
gorkish 6y ago
The iPad is a wonderfully capable computer that is crippled by Apple's iOS into being the grown up version of a VTech Tote & Go Apple wont change until they are forced.
- zepto 6y ago
  Sure, but for all intents and purposes a Linux box is also ‘crippled’ but the ridiculous learning curve, lack of security, and capriciousness of the major companies that support the distros. Both are good for different people.

"what's a computer" And I might add. Until you are able to develop an iPad app in itself, it is not replacing "a real one"

bigbubba 6y ago
A computer without software is no longer a computer?
- mhh__ 6y ago
  As a legal distinction I think it's not unreasonable, i.e. a TV these days is just a big ipad it it's not considered a personal computer.
  - bigbubba 6y ago
    If a TV isn't plugged into anything, I suppose it's no longer a TV.
  - Valkhyr 6y ago
    The big difference is that you generally see more people who would find it useful to run arbitrary software on their phone than on their TV or smart fridge, especially considering that recent phones have single core performance approaching (or exceeding older) laptops. There are plenty of people in this world for whom their smartphone is their primary or only computer (by necessity or choice), and it sucks that they cannot actually take full control of their computer. (For what it's worth, I also think that if you are in the minority who want to run custom software on your TV, the manufacturer should absolutely not be able to prevent you from doing so, because it's your TV - void your warranty while you are using unsupported software? Maybe. Prevent install outright? Hell no.)
admax88q 6y ago
> "what's a computer" Also Apple: "There's an app for that"
whywhywhywhy 6y ago
Think that's just over the horizon, which should be a positive but really it just completes the circle that iOS is all Apple needs and MacOS is the legacy system that will eventually be deprecated.

gorkish 6y ago

The iPad is a wonderfully capable computer that is crippled by Apple's iOS into being the grown up version of a VTech Tote & Go Apple wont change until they are forced.

zepto 6y ago
Sure, but for all intents and purposes a Linux box is also ‘crippled’ but the ridiculous learning curve, lack of security, and capriciousness of the major companies that support the distros. Both are good for different people.