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Why is actual violence not a solution? How many fishing ships would need to be sunk by the Chilean Navy before they wouldn't enter their territorial waters?
by oh_sigh 6y ago
Why is actual violence not a solution? How many fishing ships would need to be sunk by the Chilean Navy before they wouldn't enter their territorial waters?
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- ksdale 6y agoHow many fishing ships would need to be sunk before the Chinese navy shows up in Chilean waters?
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- remote_phone 6y agoThe Chinese navy would be at a compete disadvantage being so far away from friendly allies. Let them come.
- patmorgan23 6y agoAnd then china is at war with all of NATO
- virmundi 6y agoDoes China have a useful blue water navy? Besides South America could organize and easily defeat the Chinese ships.
- pvaldes 6y agoIs not the Chinese navy in the sense of Chinese government. Is Chinese mafia or Chinese big private company or Multinational Big company. For each one you close there will be more to come as long that is profitable. The Chinese (or Japanese or whatever) government will protest and try to retaliate of course But is not necessarily government. Is "wery well known japanese car maker" storing frozen tuna for speculating with the market prices in a sort of "gold" substitute, but more profitable than gold market. Yes this has happened and is probably happening now. We know it because the 2011 Tsunami destroyed the hidden storages. Japan, Not China (in this case). Is Totoaba prices in the Chinese market being falsely promoted as miraculous remedy for all stuff and prices manipulated to the point of making small fortunes, where the pirate local fishermen are paid in peanuts. You wipe the pirate locals has the same result as wiping the small drug dealers. And in the other part of the warfield, we have a bunch of environmentalists without any real money. People that can be overpowered, crushed by lawyers or assasinated selectively. What will be more convenient.
- belorn 6y agoThey would not sink boats. Even for some of the largest fishing boats, the marine would just sent a larger military boat and board it, transport the sailors to land and give them to the police for dealing with. The fishing boat would be confiscated. Actually sinking of boats is highly unnecessary and not something people do unless the other boat has cannons and rockets, which a fishing boat is unlikely to have.
- shakna 6y ago> unless the other boat has cannons and rockets, which a fishing boat is unlikely to have. Well, you say that, but they have been known to use bombs. > Sea Shepherd said fishermen threw rocks that broke the ship’s windows and tossed gasoline bombs that briefly ignited a fire on the Farley Mowat’s deck. [0] [0] https://apnews.com/article/db582591f91d4747abc0fefc520257af https://apnews.com/article/db582591f91d4747abc0fefc520257af
- rangibaby 6y agoMolotov cocktails are on a different level to actual military equipment
- redis_mlc 6y ago> They would not sink boats. That's simply false and silly. Indonesia and N. Korea have sunk hundreds of fishing boats. More countries will do the same.
- ashtonkem 6y agoBesides, there’s always the grand tradition of “this is ours now” and replacing all the Chinese marks with Chilean ones.
- mr_toad 6y agoIt’s nearly impossible and extremely dangerous to try an board a vessel that refuses to stop, so at least the threat of violence might be needed.