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Are you seriously suggesting it would be better for everyone if developers wrote desktop apps for OSX in Java?! Apple didn't kill Java, Sun did. It was Sun who
by cubicle67 15y ago
Are you seriously suggesting it would be better for everyone if developers wrote desktop apps for OSX in Java?!
Apple didn't kill Java, Sun did. It was Sun who decided Java apps had to look different (in that special, ugly java kind of way), that they required 5+ seconds to start etc.
Java could have been good for desktop apps if done right, but it wasn't and as a result there's very few desktop Java applications (and even fewer good ones).
Java was also an awkward fit for Cocoa, lacking the dynamic ability required. Java has it's place, and being a language for desktop apps is not it
- fingerprinter 15y agoI think your misremembering. There was a Cocoa Java API that people could use to write native apps. That is what was killed. Pure Java (Aka. Swing) apps on the desktop is a different thing entirely.
- cubicle67 15y agoSorry, I was unclear. I was referring to Java on the desktop for any OS, and the decisions I was talking about relate to Java almost 10 years ago. If Sun had of done things differently in the late 90's, Java may have been a valid desktop language, but by early 00's it was already a moot point, Apple or no Apple Some things were later fixed, but by then it was too late
- glhaynes 15y agoThe thing is, nearly nobody used Cocoa from Java. And when they did, it usually sucked.