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At least Apple has not done anything as user-hostile as this, yet. On iOS the balance of control is still in the user's favor, not the apps', and increasing wi

At least Apple has not done anything as user-hostile as this, yet. On iOS the balance of control is still in the user's favor, not the apps', and increasing with every release (like discrete permissions, limited location sharing, being able to choose which photos each app can see).

EvilEy3 6y ago
How is that user-hostile?
- Razengan 6y ago
  See all the other comments on this page.
  - kllrnohj 6y ago
    From all the people making up wild ass nonsensical shit with no relation to link? The link is a bug. Screenshots stop working if there's a .nomedia file in the screenshot directory, removing it fixes it. That file isn't normally there and it's unclear how it ended up there, but it's just a silly bug. There hasn't been any policy change. Nothing changed with screenshots. They behave the same way today that they did 5 years ago.
shawnz 6y ago
The balance of control is in the users favour on iOS even though it doesn't allow such basic affordances as sideloading apps?
- deleted 6y ago
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- ericmay 6y ago
  Side loading apps is not in the user’s favor though. The iPhone is purchased explicitly to avoid that.
  - shawnz 6y ago
    By what rationale can you say that blocking sideloading is good for the user but not blocking screenshots?
    - ericmay 6y ago
      Because it deleverages Apple’s ability to negotiate for users against developers as a collective bargaining agent. You can jailbreak your iPhone or get an Android one if you want.
      - shawnz 6y ago
        And blocking screenshots gives Google the ability to negotiate for users against developers who might otherwise not value the privacy of the user's screen contents... so what's the difference? You can get an iPhone if you want unrestricted screen access by apps. > You can jailbreak your iPhone And defeat all the security of the platform? No thanks. Plus, that relies on exploits being available (which I would hope for my own sake that they are not).
        ericmay 6y ago
        That’s not the same thing at all lol. And iPhone doesn’t give apps unrestricted screen access.
        shawnz 6y ago
        You don't see it as the same because you have different expectations/needs. I don't see Apple's control of the app store as being a value-add for me, so to me that is user-hostile. Meanwhile I do think it's important that apps can't arbitrarily look at my screen contents.
        ericmay 6y ago
        > I don't see Apple's control of the app store as being a value-add for me, so to me that is user-hostile. Sure, I think the exact opposite is the case. Fortunately so far Apple has been on my side here. When that changes, I'll have to reevaluate the utility of the iPhone. > Meanwhile I do think it's important that apps can't arbitrarily look at my screen contents Hmm. Do you have any resources I could read to understand how iOS apps are able to arbitrarily read my screen contents? Thanks.
- Razengan 6y ago
  It's not a basic affordance if millions of people don't give a fuck about it.

EvilEy3 6y ago

How is that user-hostile?

Razengan 6y ago
See all the other comments on this page.
- kllrnohj 6y ago
  From all the people making up wild ass nonsensical shit with no relation to link? The link is a bug. Screenshots stop working if there's a .nomedia file in the screenshot directory, removing it fixes it. That file isn't normally there and it's unclear how it ended up there, but it's just a silly bug. There hasn't been any policy change. Nothing changed with screenshots. They behave the same way today that they did 5 years ago.

shawnz 6y ago

The balance of control is in the users favour on iOS even though it doesn't allow such basic affordances as sideloading apps?

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ericmay 6y ago
Side loading apps is not in the user’s favor though. The iPhone is purchased explicitly to avoid that.
- shawnz 6y ago
  By what rationale can you say that blocking sideloading is good for the user but not blocking screenshots?
  - ericmay 6y ago
    Because it deleverages Apple’s ability to negotiate for users against developers as a collective bargaining agent. You can jailbreak your iPhone or get an Android one if you want.
    - shawnz 6y ago
      And blocking screenshots gives Google the ability to negotiate for users against developers who might otherwise not value the privacy of the user's screen contents... so what's the difference? You can get an iPhone if you want unrestricted screen access by apps. > You can jailbreak your iPhone And defeat all the security of the platform? No thanks. Plus, that relies on exploits being available (which I would hope for my own sake that they are not).
      - ericmay 6y ago
        That’s not the same thing at all lol. And iPhone doesn’t give apps unrestricted screen access.
        shawnz 6y ago
        You don't see it as the same because you have different expectations/needs. I don't see Apple's control of the app store as being a value-add for me, so to me that is user-hostile. Meanwhile I do think it's important that apps can't arbitrarily look at my screen contents.
        ericmay 6y ago
        > I don't see Apple's control of the app store as being a value-add for me, so to me that is user-hostile. Sure, I think the exact opposite is the case. Fortunately so far Apple has been on my side here. When that changes, I'll have to reevaluate the utility of the iPhone. > Meanwhile I do think it's important that apps can't arbitrarily look at my screen contents Hmm. Do you have any resources I could read to understand how iOS apps are able to arbitrarily read my screen contents? Thanks.
Razengan 6y ago
It's not a basic affordance if millions of people don't give a fuck about it.