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That used to be the case, but it has changed. The last 10 years the extreme left in the US has shifted left, passing even the European left, at least according

by raarts 6y ago

That used to be the case, but it has changed. The last 10 years the extreme left in the US has shifted left, passing even the European left, at least according to Pew[1]. I don't think this particular report mentions the European part, can't find that right now, but they mentioned it in another report on it. I would like to add that the Critical Race Theory (where DEI originates from) is only recently starting to get traction in for example The Netherlands, traditionally an already pretty left-leaning country. [1] https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/10/05162647/10-05-2017-Political-landscape-release.pdf https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/20...

romanoderoma 6y ago
But that doesn't mean that the Democratic party message comes from the far left. Biden can't pronounce the word "free healthcare" for fear of losing votes. That's what I was contesting: far right is right at the centre of the political scene side by side with Trump, far left is not because it has no direct representation in the political system. Unless you consider someone like Sanders a far left extremists, which is not. Far left movements are mostly extra-parliamentary
andi999 6y ago
What page in [1] do you refer to? While I believe it could be democrats are more left than european sozialdemocratic parties, I would doubt they are left to succesor party of the communidt aera.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> That used to be the case, but it has changed. No, it hasn't, meaningfully. > The last 10 years the extreme left in the US has shifted left, passing even the European left Whether or not it's true, the “extreme left” in the US that may or may not have shifted that way is politically irrelevant. Meanwhile, of the major parties the Democratic Party has been stable for decades while the Republican Party has shot to the extremes, a process that has continued at a rapid pace over the last decade. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/31/the-republican-party-has-lurched-towards-populism-and-illiberalism https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/31/the-repu...

by raarts 6y ago

romanoderoma 6y ago

But that doesn't mean that the Democratic party message comes from the far left. Biden can't pronounce the word "free healthcare" for fear of losing votes. That's what I was contesting: far right is right at the centre of the political scene side by side with Trump, far left is not because it has no direct representation in the political system. Unless you consider someone like Sanders a far left extremists, which is not. Far left movements are mostly extra-parliamentary

andi999 6y ago

What page in [1] do you refer to? While I believe it could be democrats are more left than european sozialdemocratic parties, I would doubt they are left to succesor party of the communidt aera.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> That used to be the case, but it has changed. No, it hasn't, meaningfully. > The last 10 years the extreme left in the US has shifted left, passing even the European left Whether or not it's true, the “extreme left” in the US that may or may not have shifted that way is politically irrelevant. Meanwhile, of the major parties the Democratic Party has been stable for decades while the Republican Party has shot to the extremes, a process that has continued at a rapid pace over the last decade. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/31/the-republican-party-has-lurched-towards-populism-and-illiberalism https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/31/the-repu...