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9/11 killed a minuscule amount of deaths in comparison and warranted huge cut of freedoms, multiple massive military interventions, the US starting to normalise

9/11 killed a minuscule amount of deaths in comparison and warranted huge cut of freedoms, multiple massive military interventions, the US starting to normalise torture and black prisons, but somehow requiring people to distance and wearing masks is a step too far? Let's not forget it Trump suggested to slaughter Muslims using bullets dipped in pigs blood, so he is definetly not a antiwar as some here suggest.

lawnchair_larry 6y ago
It would be a spectacular failure of logic to evaluate someones record on war based on a flippant comment (which you misrepresented) as opposed to, oh I don’t know, maybe if they started any wars. Considering that he is the first president in at least a century to not engage in any new wars, I think that might be a better signal.
- Fumtumi 6y ago
  At least we learned for the last 4 years that certain values are no longer uphold. It shouldn't be hard for a sharp upstanding human being not to throw out 'flippant' comment. That actually surprised me the most. That exactly what you said, stopped to matter. It shouldn't and we shouldn't allow it.
  - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
    The comment was made in response to the Barcelona terrorist attacks and was very specifically joking about what we should do to domestic terrorist groups that mass murder. It was also not his original thought. He cited a myth regarding what he thought someone else famously did to terrorists and said maybe we should do that. Getting upset about what he actually said and in what context seems like faux-outrage or someone with motivated reasoning to try and find something to get upset about.
    - Fumtumi 6y ago
      I would be more curious on why this is not bothering you at all. You do like it doesn't matter. Does it?
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  It would be more realistic to consider whether or not Trump dropped more bombs on poor people in Yemen than Bush and Obama combined[1], which he did. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama-combined-2020-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more...

lawnchair_larry 6y ago

It would be a spectacular failure of logic to evaluate someones record on war based on a flippant comment (which you misrepresented) as opposed to, oh I don’t know, maybe if they started any wars. Considering that he is the first president in at least a century to not engage in any new wars, I think that might be a better signal.

Fumtumi 6y ago
At least we learned for the last 4 years that certain values are no longer uphold. It shouldn't be hard for a sharp upstanding human being not to throw out 'flippant' comment. That actually surprised me the most. That exactly what you said, stopped to matter. It shouldn't and we shouldn't allow it.
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  The comment was made in response to the Barcelona terrorist attacks and was very specifically joking about what we should do to domestic terrorist groups that mass murder. It was also not his original thought. He cited a myth regarding what he thought someone else famously did to terrorists and said maybe we should do that. Getting upset about what he actually said and in what context seems like faux-outrage or someone with motivated reasoning to try and find something to get upset about.
  - Fumtumi 6y ago
    I would be more curious on why this is not bothering you at all. You do like it doesn't matter. Does it?
heavyset_go 6y ago
It would be more realistic to consider whether or not Trump dropped more bombs on poor people in Yemen than Bush and Obama combined[1], which he did. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more-than-bush-and-obama-combined-2020-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-have-bombed-yemen-more...