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But a rule needs to have a second-order thinking. here there is lot of unintended side effects. one such https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/10/21/colleges

But a rule needs to have a second-order thinking. here there is lot of unintended side effects. one such https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/10/21/colleges-sue-over-new-rules-eligibility-wages-h-1b-visa-holders https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/10/21/colleges-sue-...

RhysU 6y ago
I doubt those effects are unintended.
uberman 6y ago
A summary of the changes follows: "H1B applicants will need to be earning a salary equivalent to the 45th percentile of their profession's salary if they're an entry-level worker, rising to 95th percentile for higher-skilled workers. In the past, the boundaries were set at the 17th and 67th percentiles respectively." I work in the Higher Ed space and it is a common practice to use cheap student labor (particularly captive international student labor) J1/F1 holders who are then transferred into OPT for a year and then onto H1 status for an additional six years of servitude/captivity. I want to be clear that I am not opposed to immigration or foreign labor. Rather, I oppose treating these employees as a cheap source of labor. It is unfair to them and deflates pay for all employees. I actually like programs like OPT that provide a path for international students to begin to repay what is often huge debt, particularly when compared to wages in their home countries. They should however be paid fairly. I would like to conclude with this. I have a friend who recently applied for a senior position at a private university (one with a name you would recognize). The positional called for a data scientist with ML and AI experience. I know because they asked me for a reference. They were offered the position but told that the absolute maximum the university would pay was $65k per year as that was what the former employee (a graduate who they transitioned to an H1 visa) was paid. I suspect the Yale case is basically this as well. A university that wants to avoid paying the prevailing wage and has been able to avoid that by exploiting former international graduates. If they feel that either their employee is not a level 4 or that the prevailing wage estimates are wrong they can appeal.

RhysU 6y ago

I doubt those effects are unintended.

uberman 6y ago

A summary of the changes follows: "H1B applicants will need to be earning a salary equivalent to the 45th percentile of their profession's salary if they're an entry-level worker, rising to 95th percentile for higher-skilled workers. In the past, the boundaries were set at the 17th and 67th percentiles respectively." I work in the Higher Ed space and it is a common practice to use cheap student labor (particularly captive international student labor) J1/F1 holders who are then transferred into OPT for a year and then onto H1 status for an additional six years of servitude/captivity. I want to be clear that I am not opposed to immigration or foreign labor. Rather, I oppose treating these employees as a cheap source of labor. It is unfair to them and deflates pay for all employees. I actually like programs like OPT that provide a path for international students to begin to repay what is often huge debt, particularly when compared to wages in their home countries. They should however be paid fairly. I would like to conclude with this. I have a friend who recently applied for a senior position at a private university (one with a name you would recognize). The positional called for a data scientist with ML and AI experience. I know because they asked me for a reference. They were offered the position but told that the absolute maximum the university would pay was $65k per year as that was what the former employee (a graduate who they transitioned to an H1 visa) was paid. I suspect the Yale case is basically this as well. A university that wants to avoid paying the prevailing wage and has been able to avoid that by exploiting former international graduates. If they feel that either their employee is not a level 4 or that the prevailing wage estimates are wrong they can appeal.