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Great I can't wait for Biden to stop it.

epistasis 6y ago
To stop the virus, we need to treat it as a bigger enemy than we do each other. And it may be too late now, the easy time to stop it was at the beginning, when it would have taken far less mobilization and resources. Now, no matter how hard we clamp down it will remain in pockets. I do not believe that Biden is capable of enacting any policy that will lead to the (simple) social behaviors that can stop the disease in its tracks. He can do some policy on the edges. But if we do stop the virus, it won't be because of Biden, it will be because of the actions of a huge number of people, across the political spectrum, and a grand unification of people. We will need to build a massive virus stopping machine, and such projects are never the result of one person, anymore than the space shuttle being attributable to a single person. I think it's possible, but I do not think it's likely.
- rangoon626 6y ago
  I really don't get this constant "he didn't do anything" and "it's too late" talking points. Nancy Pelosi was walking around Chinatown in SF after it was well known that there was an outbreak going on overseas. The NYC department of health advised that it was perfectly safe to attend Chinese New Year celebrations shortly after. When POTUS stopped international travel earlier than the media decided it was a legitimate issue, his political opponents called him a racist. Then you'll argue, "but but the nyc outbreaks trace to Europe!!" And I'll argue back that China has industrial factories in Italy, and ask you how the virus got to Italy/Europe in the first place. And you still won't get it. It's like the left just constant ignores common sense and hides behind reddit-teir "you got a source for that" nerdery. All of this happened less than a year ago. It is well within living memory.
  - epistasis 6y ago
    As a scientist, it causes me immense pain to see these types of points trotted out as having any sort of relevance to stopping the spread of Covid19. Literally nothing you said here has any relevance to effective policy for stopping Covid19. Nothing. Somehow, in our modern society, you have been able to consume a very large diet of information, and have been misinformed about its basic suitability as information. There's only one way to stop this thing: by paying attention to evidence and our best understanding, and to put aside our silly political games that have not bearing on reality. Or worse, political games that think they are the reality. I hope that as part of the healing process, science starts having a seat at the table in these discussions.
    - rangoon626 6y ago
      Please answer directly: If the “science” says that we need to social distance and have lockdowns to prevent the spread of the disease, how does attending a public Chinese new year parade in New York City help prevent the spread of the disease? Seems like there’s a very obvious conflict there. Admit it. Democrat politicians encouraged this. China was already in lockdown at that point. They were following the science, why wasn’t Nancy Pelosi? Why wasn’t the New York department of health? Science is full complete horse crap since anytime after the 1960s. It is a profession that seems to collect the dishonest and egotistical. The only thing worse is when you mix in politicians from the Democrat party. And the RINOs. Also fk right off with calling me “misinformed.” And by the way, it causes me immense pain to know that there’s so many of you out there that are so damn blind and can’t read between the lines on anything. Pawns. There’s to be no “healing process” you are a complete fool if you think the democrats want to “heal” with the republicans after they lost a dozen seats.

To stop the virus, we need to treat it as a bigger enemy than we do each other. And it may be too late now, the easy time to stop it was at the beginning, when it would have taken far less mobilization and resources. Now, no matter how hard we clamp down it will remain in pockets. I do not believe that Biden is capable of enacting any policy that will lead to the (simple) social behaviors that can stop the disease in its tracks. He can do some policy on the edges. But if we do stop the virus, it won't be because of Biden, it will be because of the actions of a huge number of people, across the political spectrum, and a grand unification of people. We will need to build a massive virus stopping machine, and such projects are never the result of one person, anymore than the space shuttle being attributable to a single person. I think it's possible, but I do not think it's likely.

rangoon626 6y ago
I really don't get this constant "he didn't do anything" and "it's too late" talking points. Nancy Pelosi was walking around Chinatown in SF after it was well known that there was an outbreak going on overseas. The NYC department of health advised that it was perfectly safe to attend Chinese New Year celebrations shortly after. When POTUS stopped international travel earlier than the media decided it was a legitimate issue, his political opponents called him a racist. Then you'll argue, "but but the nyc outbreaks trace to Europe!!" And I'll argue back that China has industrial factories in Italy, and ask you how the virus got to Italy/Europe in the first place. And you still won't get it. It's like the left just constant ignores common sense and hides behind reddit-teir "you got a source for that" nerdery. All of this happened less than a year ago. It is well within living memory.
- epistasis 6y ago
  As a scientist, it causes me immense pain to see these types of points trotted out as having any sort of relevance to stopping the spread of Covid19. Literally nothing you said here has any relevance to effective policy for stopping Covid19. Nothing. Somehow, in our modern society, you have been able to consume a very large diet of information, and have been misinformed about its basic suitability as information. There's only one way to stop this thing: by paying attention to evidence and our best understanding, and to put aside our silly political games that have not bearing on reality. Or worse, political games that think they are the reality. I hope that as part of the healing process, science starts having a seat at the table in these discussions.
  - rangoon626 6y ago
    Please answer directly: If the “science” says that we need to social distance and have lockdowns to prevent the spread of the disease, how does attending a public Chinese new year parade in New York City help prevent the spread of the disease? Seems like there’s a very obvious conflict there. Admit it. Democrat politicians encouraged this. China was already in lockdown at that point. They were following the science, why wasn’t Nancy Pelosi? Why wasn’t the New York department of health? Science is full complete horse crap since anytime after the 1960s. It is a profession that seems to collect the dishonest and egotistical. The only thing worse is when you mix in politicians from the Democrat party. And the RINOs. Also fk right off with calling me “misinformed.” And by the way, it causes me immense pain to know that there’s so many of you out there that are so damn blind and can’t read between the lines on anything. Pawns. There’s to be no “healing process” you are a complete fool if you think the democrats want to “heal” with the republicans after they lost a dozen seats.