> All I'm getting at is that I'd like to see CS eventually become a language in its own right rather than an extra tool for JS developers. Yeah, totes. Brendan

> All I'm getting at is that I'd like to see CS eventually become a language in its own right rather than an extra tool for JS developers. Yeah, totes. Brendan Eich himself has assured me that the Mozilla folks are dedicated to adding debug support for CoffeeScript (and other compiled JS languages) to Firefox. So the underlying JS will be less and less of a concern as the tools get better. At the same time, though, that'll probably lead to languages that go further than CoffeeScript taking hold, just as Clojure is rockin' it on the JVM despite being really far removed from Java. I like CoffeeScript a lot, but when JavaScript really does become bytecode, people will want to code in something less JavaScript-like. (Or CoffeeScript may become the new C... "assembly with syntax," in pg's words.)