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https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-... The fact that the who

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-... The fact that the whole racist and white supremacist trope gets pushed around this much means that the media has been very effective at lying to entire populace. Think about what else they may have lied about.

rfw300 6y ago
Ah yes, I must’ve been hearing things all those years ago when Trump called for a “complete and total shutdown of Muslims entering the country”. Extremely non-racist thing to say. Get over yourself.
- OCASM 6y ago
  Islam is a religion, not a race.
- in_a_society 6y ago
  It was 7 counties identified by the previous admin as high risk. Lots of Muslims were still allowed to enter. I should know, I’m middle eastern myself.
hedora 6y ago
I read your link carefully. He never actually condemns white nationalists. He agrees they should be condemned, but never actually condemns them. There is one exception: A press release he clearly did not write condemns white supremacy. Again, during the debates (after all the examples cited in that article), he again refused to condemn white supremacy, even when Fox’s Chris Wallace handed the opportunity as a soft ball, and even when Biden reduced it to a simple yes/no answer for him by naming a group to condemn. All he had to say is “I condemn the Proud Boys” (or any other group he could name). In the most visible public forum available to him, he chose not to do so, which is the same as condoning them all.
- trumpaway 6y ago
  He does condemn them directly (several times), see the videos I linked above in reaction to your initial comment.
- in_a_society 6y ago
  As Chris Wallace is asking him Trump says “sure” three times. He’s interrupting, which is unfortunate, but the goal posts on this have moved endlessly. I’ve never seen you, hedora, condemn white supremacy. Does that mean you support it? By the way, if you condemn it, I’m going to be the arbiter on whether you did it well enough or if you’re still tarnished in the court of public opinion. Honestly I expect more from HN than to fall into Kafkaesque arguments about these things but perhaps the problem lies within my own expectations.

rfw300 6y ago

Ah yes, I must’ve been hearing things all those years ago when Trump called for a “complete and total shutdown of Muslims entering the country”. Extremely non-racist thing to say. Get over yourself.

OCASM 6y ago
Islam is a religion, not a race.
in_a_society 6y ago
It was 7 counties identified by the previous admin as high risk. Lots of Muslims were still allowed to enter. I should know, I’m middle eastern myself.

hedora 6y ago

I read your link carefully. He never actually condemns white nationalists. He agrees they should be condemned, but never actually condemns them. There is one exception: A press release he clearly did not write condemns white supremacy. Again, during the debates (after all the examples cited in that article), he again refused to condemn white supremacy, even when Fox’s Chris Wallace handed the opportunity as a soft ball, and even when Biden reduced it to a simple yes/no answer for him by naming a group to condemn. All he had to say is “I condemn the Proud Boys” (or any other group he could name). In the most visible public forum available to him, he chose not to do so, which is the same as condoning them all.

trumpaway 6y ago
He does condemn them directly (several times), see the videos I linked above in reaction to your initial comment.
in_a_society 6y ago
As Chris Wallace is asking him Trump says “sure” three times. He’s interrupting, which is unfortunate, but the goal posts on this have moved endlessly. I’ve never seen you, hedora, condemn white supremacy. Does that mean you support it? By the way, if you condemn it, I’m going to be the arbiter on whether you did it well enough or if you’re still tarnished in the court of public opinion. Honestly I expect more from HN than to fall into Kafkaesque arguments about these things but perhaps the problem lies within my own expectations.