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So they rejected someone with a plan to control the virus and address climate change? Cool.

tomtomtom777 6y ago
I am personally more aligned with ideas more progressive then Biden, so I certainly don't think people rejecting control of the virus and addressing climate change is "cool". But when people are effectively given a binary choice, they will simply side with whomever aligns against the direction they don't like. It's not cool, but if we claim that all those choosing that direction are endorsing Trump, we're saying that there's no democratic choice whatsoever for those that recognize his failures. In my opinion, there is something wrong with the two-party system much more so than there is something wrong with "republicans".
- tbwriting 6y ago
  I agree with the two party system being terrible, and wish the Dems had a more progressive candidate, but Trump’s effects on the democratic process and the climate and COVID deaths needed to be stopped.
  - tomtomtom777 6y ago
    True. On that point, let us celebrate that this episode is over.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
  Thank you for spelling it out for people. The seeming binary choice is part of the cause for all this. First election of Trump was a real cry that some seem to have forgotten. I am genuinely not sure how this is simply glossed over and simply explained as 'racism','anti-science',or w/e. I still remember driving through Ohio and seeing signs along the lines of 'Help us Trump' pre-2016. And the simple reality is that until it is addressed, we will have a non-zero chance of another Trump or Trump-like candidate in the future. Worse, we will have a candidate, who is much, much smarter, who saw all the new avenues and the ways things could be done.. Instead, we have this weird sports event with confused crowd cheering equivalent of 'my team won'. It is fucking depressing. I may be bitter, because I genuinely hate sports too.
m0zg 6y ago
I rejected someone who voted for wars every time one was on the table. https://www.wral.com/fact-check-did-biden-support-wars-in-iraq-serbia-syria-and-libya/19257083/ https://www.wral.com/fact-check-did-biden-support-wars-in-ir...
- mtnGoat 6y ago
  https://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/ https://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-... the other guy supported at least some of those wars publicly also. But since he parachuted into politics, who knows how he felt about these things until it was convenient to have an opinion favorable to his base.
  - m0zg 6y ago
    Yes, having a president who did not start a single war for the first time since Reagan is "favorable" to a voter such as myself. And last time I voted specifically against this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU. There are now _slave markets_ in Libya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2qtGisT34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2qtGisT34

I am personally more aligned with ideas more progressive then Biden, so I certainly don't think people rejecting control of the virus and addressing climate change is "cool". But when people are effectively given a binary choice, they will simply side with whomever aligns against the direction they don't like. It's not cool, but if we claim that all those choosing that direction are endorsing Trump, we're saying that there's no democratic choice whatsoever for those that recognize his failures. In my opinion, there is something wrong with the two-party system much more so than there is something wrong with "republicans".

tbwriting 6y ago
I agree with the two party system being terrible, and wish the Dems had a more progressive candidate, but Trump’s effects on the democratic process and the climate and COVID deaths needed to be stopped.
- tomtomtom777 6y ago
  True. On that point, let us celebrate that this episode is over.
A4ET8a8uTh0 6y ago
Thank you for spelling it out for people. The seeming binary choice is part of the cause for all this. First election of Trump was a real cry that some seem to have forgotten. I am genuinely not sure how this is simply glossed over and simply explained as 'racism','anti-science',or w/e. I still remember driving through Ohio and seeing signs along the lines of 'Help us Trump' pre-2016. And the simple reality is that until it is addressed, we will have a non-zero chance of another Trump or Trump-like candidate in the future. Worse, we will have a candidate, who is much, much smarter, who saw all the new avenues and the ways things could be done.. Instead, we have this weird sports event with confused crowd cheering equivalent of 'my team won'. It is fucking depressing. I may be bitter, because I genuinely hate sports too.

m0zg 6y ago

I rejected someone who voted for wars every time one was on the table. https://www.wral.com/fact-check-did-biden-support-wars-in-iraq-serbia-syria-and-libya/19257083/ https://www.wral.com/fact-check-did-biden-support-wars-in-ir...

mtnGoat 6y ago
https://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/ https://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-... the other guy supported at least some of those wars publicly also. But since he parachuted into politics, who knows how he felt about these things until it was convenient to have an opinion favorable to his base.
- m0zg 6y ago
  Yes, having a president who did not start a single war for the first time since Reagan is "favorable" to a voter such as myself. And last time I voted specifically against this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU. There are now _slave markets_ in Libya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2qtGisT34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2qtGisT34