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Ask HN: How to Become a Senior Developer?

16 points by keaq 6y ago

I am a junior. How do I grow to a senior?

austincheney 6y ago
In my case do what others cannot. I am a JavaScript developer and I am able to write code without frameworks or querySelectors. That doesn’t sound like much (it isn’t) but most JavaScript developers can’t do that. Therefore I can write code others cannot and solve problems others cannot.
linsomniac 6y ago
A helluva lotta humility.
factorialboy 6y ago
You need a big body of work under your belt. Diverse work is good. Also good is going on working on a single project from idea to production to maintaining. Breadth and depth. Technical skills will happen as a consequence. Experience will also teach you working with people. Verbal warfare is a reality. You need not be hostile, but you will learn how to hold your own. Most people are driven by persuasion and not technical reasoning. You need to think multiple steps ahead, and act on it, without showing all your cards. Finally, to yourself, you must be 100% honest. Don't bullshit yourself. Work hard. "Be the hardest working person in the room". Find happiness in the work rather than the results. Results may or may not go your way.
quickthrower2 6y ago
Take on responsibility. Be the developer who talks to people in other teams, thinks about what the business needs, how their work fits into the wider picture. Volunteer for everything you can at work. There are plenty of micro roles at work for example I became the Kubernetes “expert” but that’s a relative term of course I’m pretty much a beginner but I take responsibility for the Kubernetes stuff and am willing to learn as I go. This is some of the quality you need at least in SME or startup land. Check if your company has a career development matrix or plan too. If not check out public ones posted online, many companies share them these days.
namaljayathunga 6y ago
Good posts that I have read https://neilkakkar.com/things-I-learnt-from-a-senior-dev.html https://neilkakkar.com/things-I-learnt-from-a-senior-dev.htm... https://medium.com/s/story/what-truly-makes-a-senior-developer-74b608847d7e https://medium.com/s/story/what-truly-makes-a-senior-develop...
Jugurtha 6y ago
Hi, here are a few things I wrote in here that could be useful. They are designed to improve remembering to do things, doing things, learn from doing things, make sure everyone knows what they should be doing, remember why we're/if we ought to be doing things in the first place, and doing the right things: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19924100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19924100 (understanding codebases, etc.) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22873103 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22873103 (making the most out of meetings, leveraging your presence) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22827841 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22827841 (product development) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20356222 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20356222 (giving a damn) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25008223 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25008223 (If I disappear, what will happen) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24972611 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24972611 (about consulting and clients, but you can abstract that as "stakeholders", and understanding the problem your "client", who can be your manager, has.) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24209518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24209518 (on taking notes. When you're told something, or receive a remark, make sure to make a note and learn from it whether it's a mistake, or a colleague showing you something useful, or a task you must accomplish.. don't be told things twice or worse. Be on the ball and reliable). - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24503365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24503365 (product, architecture, and impact on the team) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22860716 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22860716 (onboarding new hires to a codebase, what if it were you, improve code) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22710623 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22710623 (being efficient learning from video, hacks. Subsequent reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22723586 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22723586) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21598632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21598632 (communication with the team, and subsequent reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21614372 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21614372) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427886 (template for taking minutes of meetings to dispatch to the team. Notes are in GitHub/GitLab so the team can access them, especially if they haven't attended). - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24177646 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24177646 (communication, alignment) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21808439 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21808439 (useful things for the team and product that add leverage) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20323660 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20323660 (more meeting notes. Reply to a person who had trouble talking in corporate meetings) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22715971 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22715971 (management involvement as a spectrum)
zn44 6y ago
Senior means something different in each company so start by telling your manager that you’d like to progress and ask how to do it. There might be career ladder available that would give you decked guidelines. Then work hard, make sure you deliver you core responsibilities with quality and as fast as you can. For most things good full day of focused and structured work should do the trick. If you fall behind don’t hesitate to put some extra time to catch up but you shouldn’t need to make the overtime a norm. Learn new things, first listen to feedback you receive and make sure you don’t make same mistake twice. Ask questions to your colleagues, they are much more happy to help than you’d ever expect (at least that was the case for me). Read a lot of books. If you have passion for your work do some side projects, don’t feel bad if you don’t finish or ship them. Listen to conference talks and go to conferences. Think about the projects you work on and how you can improve them. If you find yourself with some spare time propose and work on projects that improve your codebase, refactor, optimise builds. Understand your business, try to look at what you do from perspective outside of the tech team and understand what is the value of the work your team is delivering. Stay up to date with latest news but don’t drink the kool-aid.
bot41 6y ago
Experience developing, maintaining, bug finding, solving problems, assisting team members
Spoom 6y ago
As others have said, this means different things at different companies, but in general: Junior to Mid: Become independently and predictably productive. Mid to Senior: Mentor Juniors and Mids, and lead projects competently.

16 points by keaq 6y ago

I am a junior. How do I grow to a senior?

In my case do what others cannot. I am a JavaScript developer and I am able to write code without frameworks or querySelectors. That doesn’t sound like much (it isn’t) but most JavaScript developers can’t do that. Therefore I can write code others cannot and solve problems others cannot.

linsomniac 6y ago

A helluva lotta humility.

factorialboy 6y ago

You need a big body of work under your belt. Diverse work is good. Also good is going on working on a single project from idea to production to maintaining. Breadth and depth. Technical skills will happen as a consequence. Experience will also teach you working with people. Verbal warfare is a reality. You need not be hostile, but you will learn how to hold your own. Most people are driven by persuasion and not technical reasoning. You need to think multiple steps ahead, and act on it, without showing all your cards. Finally, to yourself, you must be 100% honest. Don't bullshit yourself. Work hard. "Be the hardest working person in the room". Find happiness in the work rather than the results. Results may or may not go your way.

quickthrower2 6y ago

Take on responsibility. Be the developer who talks to people in other teams, thinks about what the business needs, how their work fits into the wider picture. Volunteer for everything you can at work. There are plenty of micro roles at work for example I became the Kubernetes “expert” but that’s a relative term of course I’m pretty much a beginner but I take responsibility for the Kubernetes stuff and am willing to learn as I go. This is some of the quality you need at least in SME or startup land. Check if your company has a career development matrix or plan too. If not check out public ones posted online, many companies share them these days.

namaljayathunga 6y ago

Good posts that I have read https://neilkakkar.com/things-I-learnt-from-a-senior-dev.html https://neilkakkar.com/things-I-learnt-from-a-senior-dev.htm... https://medium.com/s/story/what-truly-makes-a-senior-developer-74b608847d7e https://medium.com/s/story/what-truly-makes-a-senior-develop...

Jugurtha 6y ago

Hi, here are a few things I wrote in here that could be useful. They are designed to improve remembering to do things, doing things, learn from doing things, make sure everyone knows what they should be doing, remember why we're/if we ought to be doing things in the first place, and doing the right things: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19924100 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19924100 (understanding codebases, etc.) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22873103 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22873103 (making the most out of meetings, leveraging your presence) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22827841 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22827841 (product development) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20356222 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20356222 (giving a damn) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25008223 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25008223 (If I disappear, what will happen) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24972611 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24972611 (about consulting and clients, but you can abstract that as "stakeholders", and understanding the problem your "client", who can be your manager, has.) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24209518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24209518 (on taking notes. When you're told something, or receive a remark, make sure to make a note and learn from it whether it's a mistake, or a colleague showing you something useful, or a task you must accomplish.. don't be told things twice or worse. Be on the ball and reliable). - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24503365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24503365 (product, architecture, and impact on the team) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22860716 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22860716 (onboarding new hires to a codebase, what if it were you, improve code) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22710623 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22710623 (being efficient learning from video, hacks. Subsequent reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22723586 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22723586) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21598632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21598632 (communication with the team, and subsequent reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21614372 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21614372) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427886 (template for taking minutes of meetings to dispatch to the team. Notes are in GitHub/GitLab so the team can access them, especially if they haven't attended). - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24177646 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24177646 (communication, alignment) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21808439 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21808439 (useful things for the team and product that add leverage) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20323660 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20323660 (more meeting notes. Reply to a person who had trouble talking in corporate meetings) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22715971 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22715971 (management involvement as a spectrum)

zn44 6y ago

Senior means something different in each company so start by telling your manager that you’d like to progress and ask how to do it. There might be career ladder available that would give you decked guidelines. Then work hard, make sure you deliver you core responsibilities with quality and as fast as you can. For most things good full day of focused and structured work should do the trick. If you fall behind don’t hesitate to put some extra time to catch up but you shouldn’t need to make the overtime a norm. Learn new things, first listen to feedback you receive and make sure you don’t make same mistake twice. Ask questions to your colleagues, they are much more happy to help than you’d ever expect (at least that was the case for me). Read a lot of books. If you have passion for your work do some side projects, don’t feel bad if you don’t finish or ship them. Listen to conference talks and go to conferences. Think about the projects you work on and how you can improve them. If you find yourself with some spare time propose and work on projects that improve your codebase, refactor, optimise builds. Understand your business, try to look at what you do from perspective outside of the tech team and understand what is the value of the work your team is delivering. Stay up to date with latest news but don’t drink the kool-aid.

bot41 6y ago

Experience developing, maintaining, bug finding, solving problems, assisting team members

Spoom 6y ago

As others have said, this means different things at different companies, but in general: Junior to Mid: Become independently and predictably productive. Mid to Senior: Mentor Juniors and Mids, and lead projects competently.